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08-16-2013 01:15 AM
windwalker
Re: ASA Exams

I failed to mention that my spouse will not let me buy a boat until I pass Keelboat and BCC. I can't even get a stinking dinghy.

Dad and I have planned a run down SoCal through Baja and the Panama Canal in 22 months.

E
08-15-2013 10:28 PM
kj3564
Re: ASA Exams

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaribDream View Post
I don't mind giving their name because I was so happy with them. I used Capt. Harold Ochstein, Island Dreamer Sailing School in Miami. Tell him Tim & Sharon recommended them.
We spent a week with Harold and Margie several years ago on Island Dreamer. Completed ASA 103, 104, it was an excellent week, we would recommend them also.

Keith and Monica
08-15-2013 08:47 PM
cranki
Re: ASA Exams

I don't think I need an ASA certificate though. Just curious what they teach. I have chartered boats without one before.
08-15-2013 08:29 PM
TJC45
Re: ASA Exams

Quote:
Originally Posted by cranki View Post
I am a longtime sailor who grew up learning along with my father. H got his first boat when I was 5. When it comes to sailing, I think I know a lot. I know however, there is a lot I don't know. I would be interested in seeing an ASA Exam just to see if I could pass and, for my own sake, to judge it's relevance. Part of the reason is I have been teaching my girlfriend more practice how to operate the boat, radios, etc.. than real sailing knowledge. My reasoning being she needs to know what's what and how to turn the boat around and find me if I fall off. We have both been thinking it might be a good idea for her to get some independent instruction.
For a fee you can test out on some ASA courses without taking the course. Pay the fee, pass the test, you get the cert. This applies to the basic courses.
08-15-2013 08:21 PM
cranki
Re: ASA Exams

I am a longtime sailor who grew up learning along with my father. H got his first boat when I was 5. When it comes to sailing, I think I know a lot. I know however, there is a lot I don't know. I would be interested in seeing an ASA Exam just to see if I could pass and, for my own sake, to judge it's relevance. Part of the reason is I have been teaching my girlfriend more practice how to operate the boat, radios, etc.. than real sailing knowledge. My reasoning being she needs to know what's what and how to turn the boat around and find me if I fall off. We have both been thinking it might be a good idea for her to get some independent instruction.
08-15-2013 08:09 PM
TJC45
Re: ASA Exams

Relax and enjoy the experience. There are no real consequences regarding ASA tests. Worst case, you fail. Then what? You retake the test. And, for as many times as you need. An inconvenience but nothing of importance hangs in the balance. You don't get kicked out of school, lose your job, or home and you don't give up a job opportunity. And nobody dies because you didn't quite have it down.

IOW, On the scale of life no big deal!
08-15-2013 04:41 PM
windwalker
Re: ASA Exams

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamsailor View Post
His reply - "Part of my job is making sure I never put you in a situation that I don't feel confident that you are fully capable of handling. You might feel unsure in your ability when you try something the first time, but I make sure you have learned the skills needed before I introduce something new. I'll slow down if I ever feel you aren't fully getting it."

This stuck with us, and eased our anxiety and fears of messing up. In hindsight, finding the right instructor seems super important.


This quote is a very important item. I am an ASA Sailing Instructor/Licensed Master. This instructor, whom ever he is, is 100% correct. The key to learning sailing is:

1) Read/Study all the text you are given BEFORE going to class;
2) Enjoy the adventure; and
3) Having the right instructor.[/QUOTE]

My spouse has very little sailing experience, whereas I was raised sailing.

I read the new ASA basic book before starting classes, and found it difficult to start sailing lessons prior to at least taking the keelboat class. I really didn't have enough sailing vocabulary to make it worthwhile. At the current time, I am studying for the exam and then researching the individual items that I am struggling with, such as weather helm (part of which may be a combination of my father's sailing style and the boat's rigging being set for solo sailing).

Our sailing school also employs the no yelling rule.

E
08-15-2013 02:27 PM
Yamsailor
Re: ASA Exams

His reply - "Part of my job is making sure I never put you in a situation that I don't feel confident that you are fully capable of handling. You might feel unsure in your ability when you try something the first time, but I make sure you have learned the skills needed before I introduce something new. I'll slow down if I ever feel you aren't fully getting it."

This stuck with us, and eased our anxiety and fears of messing up. In hindsight, finding the right instructor seems super important.[/QUOTE]



This quote is a very important item. I am an ASA Sailing Instructor/Licensed Master. This instructor, whom ever he is, is 100% correct. The key to learning sailing is:

1) Read/Study all the text you are given BEFORE going to class;
2) Enjoy the adventure; and
3) Having the right instructor.
08-15-2013 01:02 PM
windwalker
Re: ASA Exams

With three young children and three small businesses, a live aboard approach is not ideal for us. I have always been on sailboats, but am learning the technical details and a skipper's judgment as I did not have those experiences when younger. Our current training plan suits our needs, and we will do a 3 day on the water class offshore in March for BCC and another in September for chartering. We take on the water lessons as we can shoehorn them into our schedule and I sail with my dad a lot in San Diego.

Thanks,
E
08-15-2013 12:49 PM
CaribDream
Quote:
Originally Posted by nolatom:1074326
I teach Basic Keelboat part-time.

The test is pretty straightforward if you've studied the book, and especially the questions at the end of each chapter.

I think each instructor has their own style, and students have their own learning style too. I tend to follow the "let's sail first, then you'll see afterward that the book is 'right'" approach, with a minimum of initial chalk-talk. the boat makes a better "blackboard", and you avoid "MEGO"*

*("my eyes glaze over")

Good luck and enjoy the moment, whether afloat underway, at the dock, or ashore with the book.
I like your approach. But then again as you said everyone has their own learning style. While I like your idea, for me personally I'm not sure I would have understood why/what I was learning during the onboard sailing training had I not studied so much in advance. On the contrary, I did fight the "MEGO" on some topics, and they were not clear until the hands-on sailing. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Key is to match the instructor style to the student style I think.
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