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10-16-2013 10:24 AM
kwaltersmi
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

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Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
If I go 5/16, do I need it as schedule BBB? I currently have 40’ of the stuff on my “cruising” anchor and it is heavy and I have to hand-over-hand it into the boat. What I’ve read in the charts, ¼ inch is acceptable.
I think HT/G4 chain is suppose to have about twice the working load of BBB, so 1/4" HT or 5/16" BBB might suffice, but you'll save some weight with the smaller HT.
10-16-2013 10:10 AM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

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Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
¼ inch is acceptable. What do you guys with real practical experience think? As I am about two years from heading South, I figure if I start shopping now, I’ll be able to score a bargain on ground tackle. .
I don't know.
You could try cheating and ask the chandler what they sell most of to that size boat. If you ask enough you might get a good idea.

You are right about having the time to buy when the price is right. When cruising I always have to buy when I need something, not when a sale comes up
If you always have your big list and some available cash and keep the beady eye out I think you could have a real wad of cash being at the right place/time. Maybe sharing a full drum of chain with another boat (etc) could give you a bulk discount?


Mark
10-16-2013 09:27 AM
aeventyr60
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

I think you will do better with the 5/16 HT G4. Be suspect of cheap chain.

I switched to a bullet style chain to anchor connector as I grew tired of having to help the anchor over the roller. The brand I forget....cruiseheimers.
10-15-2013 08:36 PM
Faster
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

On a related issue, the shackle on our anchor is a standard rounded shackle and clevis that just won't pull through the cheeks of the bow roller, meaning I have to lean over the pulpit, lift the chain off the roller and set the anchor shank on the roller to get the shackle past.. what is everyone's choice for chain/anchor connection?

The various swivels look like they'd pass through but they seem a) unnecessary and b) worrisome from a strength perspective. The mid-link connector shown above looks like a possibility..
10-15-2013 07:59 PM
GeorgeB
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

Mark, Aventyr60, thanks for the inputs. My Catalina 34 (cruising “sling” weight will be between 15,000-16,000 pounds) has a Maxwell (V500?) windlass with a rope-rode capstan. They make a gypsy/capstan combo head windlass that will work with ¼ regular coil chain and an all-gypsy capstan head for ¼ inch proof (BBB) coil. I will need to check if they sell a gypsy head for my windlass that will accept 5/16 chain. If I go 5/16, do I need it as schedule BBB? I currently have 40’ of the stuff on my “cruising” anchor and it is heavy and I have to hand-over-hand it into the boat. What I’ve read in the charts, ¼ inch is acceptable. What do you guys with real practical experience think? As I am about two years from heading South, I figure if I start shopping now, I’ll be able to score a bargain on ground tackle. Thanks again, and I’m really enjoying this discussion.
10-15-2013 07:10 PM
aeventyr60
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

George, try 5/16. Also you can purchase "Anchor" brand chain from industrial supply house's at a much better price then WM. It come in 550' barrels. Maybe you can find somebody to split a barrel? 275' seemed to work fine in mexico for us and in the So. Pacific. I've cut off the first few feet a couple of time and regularly end for ended the chain and have had it regalvanized twice since leaving in 99. good luck.
10-15-2013 06:55 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

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Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
Mark, can you comment further on your chain splice? Do you sister in a section of chain around the splice and then shackle it to your anchor chain? Why not forego the “C” link altogether and use the shackle directly?
Because a shackle wont go through the gypsy.
So when the C link comes up through the gypsey I shackle the one foot long bit of chain losely either side of the C link. It takes a slim shackle to go through the chain.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
Speaking of chain – we are a little more than two years away from taking our Catalina 34 down the West Coast of Mexico. I was thinking of going to an all chain rode consisting of ¼ inch proof-coil and 200-250 total length shackled to a 35# ROCNA or Manson anchor. Your thoughts? (not sure, but I might have asked this question before). Do you recommend getting a chain gypsy replacement to the capstan head?
I have 100 meters of 3/8ths inch (really 10mm) chain in the 2 pieces joined. Thats 330 feet.
In the next few months I would like to replace it with one length of 10mm about 80 meters long (Iv'e never used the full 100 meters and the extra is a pain to put the last few meters in without making a hill jambing the bottom of the gypsey.

I think you might like to look at the 250 feet instead of the 200 feet. 250 = 76 meters. Thats a good amount. 200 ft (60 meters) is a little short. imho.

I dont know what you mean by a 'chain gypsy replacement'. If you mean you've had half chain half rode, then yes I agree to get rid of the rode and have the gypsy for chain

Lots of chain is good. I know it gets expensive.


Mark
10-15-2013 06:32 PM
GeorgeB
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

Mark, can you comment further on your chain splice? Do you sister in a section of chain around the splice and then shackle it to your anchor chain? Why not forego the “C” link altogether and use the shackle directly?

Speaking of chain – we are a little more than two years away from taking our Catalina 34 down the West Coast of Mexico. I was thinking of going to an all chain rode consisting of ¼ inch proof-coil and 200-250 total length shackled to a 35# ROCNA or Manson anchor. Your thoughts? (not sure, but I might have asked this question before). Do you recommend getting a chain gypsy replacement to the capstan head?
10-15-2013 06:11 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

I use the C riveted one and the boat hasnt sunk yet. Its at the 50 meter join so I dont use it often. When I do use it I put a 1 foot pice of chain over the join and shackle it.


10-15-2013 05:46 PM
PhilipStevens
Re: Chain to chain connectors on anchor chain

You may be interested in the testing of various chain connectors from this site in the UK
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