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10-25-2013 04:47 PM
Cruxandreams
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

Appreciate all the responses, Ill try to remember to post pics when I finish the job.
10-16-2013 04:25 PM
RichH
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

I had similar uh-ohs on a quality built taiwanese boat. The strakes were 1/4 thk teak and 1/4 x 1/4 white meranti (?). I found my meranti at a 'quality' hardwoods dealer and carefully 'routed out' all the old and simply very carefully 'inlaid' the new.

For a wet section of sole that began to rot away from underneath in the supporting ply, I cut out a square section of the sole with a very fine 'cabinet saw blade' (on a fein tool), removed the 1/4 thick teak straking and (probably) white meranti without loosening the strake to strake glue lines by careful chiseling/grinding/sanding away the adhering underdecking and then simply re-glued to the rebuilt 'underdeck'. The only way one can determine that this was a repair was to closely look for those very thin 'cut lines' that were filled with 'saw dust filled resin'.

hope this helps.
10-16-2013 04:22 PM
deniseO30
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

need better photos Crux really. Is this looking down at the sole? and is the little strip the lumber that would be the "holly"? Holly doesn't have any grain pattern that I've seen. Maple would. quilted, tiger, birdseye...

Holly


tiger maple
10-16-2013 03:36 PM
Cruxandreams
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

The ply wood is not the issue here, its This "striped looking wood in the pic" which again is no veneer, it is half inch thick by 1/4" wide. The only thing I am trying to show you in the pic is the top half of the picture where you see the 1/4" stripped wood next to the teak. its the striped looking wood in the pic is what rotted out from between the teak, and I am trying to match. I was thinking luan as well, some areas appear stripped like the pic and others not so much. The floor is holding up magnificently every where there were not puddles sitting every time it rained. Overall the cabin sole was designed and built with quality in mind, and compared to countless other boats iv seen over built. I'm surprised the yard would splurge on half inch solid teak flooring instead of using the thin veneer/ ply stuff that most used, then use some an inferior wood for the strips. Im not so sure its terribly inferior though, as I said this boats hatches were cracked bad and it poured in. being in those conditions in south florida for at least a year , I'm very surprised it only penetrated to the extent that it did. Guess ill just have to take a piece to the hard woods place and search for a match.
10-16-2013 01:25 PM
SlowButSteady
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

Looks like Luan (a.k.a., Philippine Mahogany) to me. But, like others have said, it's tough to tell from a pic. Whatever it is, it's pretty rotten. Just match it with something that looks close; you'll probably never get it to look exactly uniform without replacing the entire floor.
10-16-2013 12:31 PM
RichH
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

Looks like Meranti, one of the various species that is 'lumped into' the generic name for Luan.
In the 70s and 80s many of the asian yards used luan ply as the base structure for soles, even with 1/4" teak and 'faux-holly' top surfaces ; some used meranti as a strake or thick veneer overlay to the substructure - red meranti for the faux-teak and white/yellow meranti as the faux-holly.
It rots quite well if fed by any 'boat leaks'.

Meranti - http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-...k-red-meranti/
10-16-2013 12:09 AM
Sabreman
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

I'm not sure that it's mahogany, the grain doesn't look right and mahogany doesn't flame like I'm seeing. But some pictures with better perspective will help. I agree that the substrate is probably cheap mahogany or luan.. the grain definitely looks like luan.

I really can't see the areas that you're suggesting are holly... more pictures please. BUT I wouldn't use holly in this application. Denise is right that maple is a much better wood. Holly is very obstinate with messy grain and unless carefully dried never stays straight. It's true that some species of holly are very white, but maple can be quite white too. BUT either wood will yellow under any flooring finish except super blonde shellac (not an option here).

There really isn't a good reason for a solid teak (or mahogany) floor. It will expand and contract with temperature and humidity. It will cost a fortune and be a major job to install. I'll stress that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a marine ply subfloor and 1/8" to 1/4" teak/maple overlay. The floor will be stable and look great for decades. Your problem was with water ingress, not the floor.

Send more pictures and we can give more confusing advise... )
10-15-2013 08:36 PM
SloopJonB
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

Looks like Lauan "mahogany" plywood. Poor choice for a cabin sole.
10-15-2013 08:17 PM
smurphny
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

Needs a better picture. Looks like maybe mahogany plywood but there are lots of mahogany species and genuses so matching is probably impossible. Trying to match it might be done using stain and trial and error on some scrap pieces. The veneer looks like maybe a maple stain would be close.
10-15-2013 07:33 PM
StormBay
Re: What wood is this cabin sole made off??

Its hard to tell from the photo, mahogany perhaps. I often smell the wood as a way to determine what it is. Teak has a musty type of smell wile mahogany is more peppery and spicy.
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