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10-21-2013 08:07 AM
capecodda
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

I was not a fan of integrated radar/chart plotters, then I got one. I changed my mind.

There is nothing like having a display at the helm. This makes 1 person navigating work, even when running through a narrow harbor in the fog. In a boat the OP's size, multiple screens in the cockpit can get ungainly. Integrated systems solve this problem as well. Then there's radar overlay. No thinking involved when a marker and a radar return are at the same location on the screen. For additional cost, you can add an additional display below if you want, but if you can afford only one, put it on deck IMHO.

For redundancy buy a simple hand held GPS for short money, even if it only has numbers and you should have a paper chart anyway. If you have a cell phone or tablet, load your favorite nav software for a cheap chart plotter 3rd backup system for real short money.

Not sure it matters which vendor. We have Raymarine, seems to work fine, their support is not so great, but usually you don't need much support once everything is working.
10-20-2013 09:47 PM
WhistlerMark
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

I have iSailor on my Iphone and I do like that App and it appears to be pretty accurate. I thought the GPS/Radar pack might be nice since you have one 7inch screen and there's not a lot of room in the cockpit for anything too big. There is a special mount that hooks into the companionway for the old unit. It would be perfect for the smaller one.
10-20-2013 08:44 PM
bfloyd4445
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

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Originally Posted by LinekinBayCD View Post
Having a radar overlay is probably best confirmation of where you are in pea soup fog short of being right next to a marker. Getthe redundancy with a separate handheld or transportable GPS.
yes there are even free apps to do that for a smartphone. all smart phone already have gps that works via the sat's and is not dependant upon cell phone areas
10-20-2013 08:28 PM
LinekinBayCD
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

Having a radar overlay is probably best confirmation of where you are in pea soup fog short of being right next to a marker. Getthe redundancy with a separate handheld or transportable GPS.
10-20-2013 06:40 PM
bfloyd4445
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

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I like that idea as I'd have a laptop on board anyway and I can update the software. So would any radar mount with Ethernet be comparable with this? Would a dome and a GPS mount plus a laptop fill all my needs for now? Again, I'm cruising the Hudson with maybe two trips a year to the LI Sound/Bock Island etc. Thanks.
I know some gps's won't work well but at there website there is tons of info on what does and does not work. opencpn is getting better all the time. I have a garmin gps that works ok with my netbook but there are some cheap gps's that work better than my garmin. My gamin is a gps 12 one of the first on the market back in the 90's. Not sure about the radar for that info go to the opencpn forums and ask. or the opencpn website.
10-20-2013 11:52 AM
Alex W
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

I'm not very experienced with radar systems, but the ability to have the radar overlay on the chart plotter seems very nice.

I agree that redundant systems are a good idea. For about $200-$250 you can add a completely independent chart plotter system using a Nexus 7 tablet running Navionics or other software. When you aren't using it for that purpose they make a useful second display for modern plotters.

I have a Raymarine e7d (with no radar at the moment). At $2500 you have options to look at from all 3 major manufacturers (Raymarine, Garmin, and Navico (Lowrance/Simrad/B&G)). I'd play with the UI on each and see which one you like the best.
10-20-2013 11:19 AM
WhistlerMark
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

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Originally Posted by olson34 View Post
Hope you're planning a lot of use of this in the next 9 years. Last Garmin fixed-mount product I had was unsupported in about 4 years. And that's not unusual for modern electronics -- any use you get over about 5 or 6 years is a bonus.

It is not just "planned obsolescence" in the main device, it's also a fast-track sunset for replacement parts and service as well.

Choose Wisely, as that guardian Knight told Indy...



LB
Yes I've been doing a lot of reading and I guess after a while you would hopefully have a decent radar system and then have to upgrade the chart plotter. Maybe a standalone Radar system is the way to go. I have lots of GPS options and really the radar is what I want to replace.....hmmm the plot thickens.
10-20-2013 10:36 AM
WhistlerMark
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

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Originally Posted by bfloyd4445 View Post
there lots of change happening right now and you can always use opencpn for backup and it will interface to your radar as well. opencpn if you are not familiar, opencpn is a free program you can put on any laptop netbook, smart phone, etc. I like it better than my garmin or hummingbird. Check it out, works with gps radar, ais, grib's

OpenCPN | Official OpenCPN Homepage
I like that idea as I'd have a laptop on board anyway and I can update the software. So would any radar mount with Ethernet be comparable with this? Would a dome and a GPS mount plus a laptop fill all my needs for now? Again, I'm cruising the Hudson with maybe two trips a year to the LI Sound/Bock Island etc. Thanks.
10-19-2013 10:08 PM
bfloyd4445
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

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Originally Posted by WhistlerMark View Post
Thanks for the replies. I had been thinking of this particular unit Garmin GPSMAP 740S Radar Pack w/GMR 18 HD . I'm 9 years away from retirement so, for now, this would be to get me to the LI sound and do some navigating from the Mid Hudson River South. My Dad was a master of charts and Radar and me, I was always the willing crew so there's a lot for me to learn.
there lots of change happening right now and you can always use opencpn for backup and it will interface to your radar as well. opencpn if you are not familiar, opencpn is a free program you can put on any laptop netbook, smart phone, etc. I like it better than my garmin or hummingbird. Check it out, works with gps radar, ais, grib's

http://opencpn.org/ocpn/
10-19-2013 08:44 PM
olson34
Re: Radar Chartplotter?

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Originally Posted by WhistlerMark View Post
Thanks for the replies. I had been thinking of this particular unit Garmin GPSMAP 740S Radar Pack w/GMR 18 HD . I'm 9 years away from retirement so, for now, this would be to get me to the LI sound and do some navigating from the Mid Hudson River South. My Dad was a master of charts and Radar and me, I was always the willing crew so there's a lot for me to learn.
Hope you're planning a lot of use of this in the next 9 years. Last Garmin fixed-mount product I had was unsupported in about 4 years. And that's not unusual for modern electronics -- any use you get over about 5 or 6 years is a bonus.

It is not just "planned obsolescence" in the main device, it's also a fast-track sunset for replacement parts and service as well.

Choose Wisely, as that guardian Knight told Indy...



LB
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