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1 Hour Ago 04:23 PM
mstern
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
Like it or not, Hunter Hatred is a real thing. It's a meme of sorts that may or may not have any foundation in reality. It's a little like the vitriol that is always raised when a Macgregor 26 is mentioned, but usually much less severe. I'd be getting annoyed too if people were always trashing my boat.
Yeah, it can get pretty ugly. For some reason, it seems to go beyond the hate that some direct towards Beneteau, Jenneau and Catalina for their supposed crappy design and construction. I'm not sure why, but I am guessing it has to do with the perception that Hunter had some quality problems a few years ago. That, and the fact that more than their peers, Hunter seems to have pushed the design and style envelope beyond what we staid sailors deemed acceptable.

Personally, I don't like the styling of the new Hunters (or the French builders either for that matter). But I do acknowledge that some of the innovations that Hunter either started or pushed to the standard are great features: (sugar scoop sterns, cockpit arches with travelers, plumb bows).

FWIW, my friends' Hunter 23.5 sails rings around my Oday 23.
3 Hours Ago 02:14 PM
MedSailor
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by RTB View Post
You got it! Thanks for being understanding.

I really hate seeing the same post at different forums, but I'm going to post this here too.


I get frustrated when the Hunter haters get going....but why? My boat is a 1982 Cherubini Hunter 36. Most say this is a good boat, even the folk bashing Hunters (that know anything about Hunters). I really shouldn't take offense, because much of the negative comments involve the newer models (which I know nothing about). But I do get offended, because that is what I choose to sail, cruise, and live aboard.

Like it or not, Hunter Hatred is a real thing. It's a meme of sorts that may or may not have any foundation in reality. It's a little like the vitriol that is always raised when a Macgregor 26 is mentioned, but usually much less severe. I'd be getting annoyed too if people were always trashing my boat.

I never really liked Hunters, and this opinion is based on three things:

1: What other people told me. (mob mentality)
2: They are ugly to my eye. (newer models as you mentioned)
3: They look underbuilt, which reinforces #1.

I must admit that Smack's hunter doesn't look like the curvy Hunters that I associate with #2. Smack's thread on why he chose his boat had solid reasoning in my book. Sequitur's journey has also given me pause for #3. As for #1, I'm happy to discount the casual "dock talk" that engendered it in the first palce.

My opinion (which was never really well formed) is changing favorably towards Hunter. Still, I see the huge Hunter Hatred and I'm not exactly sure where it comes from....

MedSailor
1 Day Ago 10:10 PM
RTB
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by aeventyr60 View Post
No Worries, just pass the bottle when you sail by!
You got it! Thanks for being understanding.

I really hate seeing the same post at different forums, but I'm going to post this here too.


I get frustrated when the Hunter haters get going....but why? My boat is a 1982 Cherubini Hunter 36. Most say this is a good boat, even the folk bashing Hunters (that know anything about Hunters). I really shouldn't take offense, because much of the negative comments involve the newer models (which I know nothing about). But I do get offended, because that is what I choose to sail, cruise, and live aboard.

After 4 Gulf Stream crossings, sailing the Tongue of the Ocean, crossing from the Exumas to George Town, or to Eleuthera, to the Abaco's (how deep is "blue water"?), and eventually back to Texas, I'm pretty happy with our Hunter. We've been back in Texas for 4 months after 2 years and 5000 miles of cruising. I re-bedded the chainplates today, and have gone through the boat thoroughly after getting back here. All is the same as when we left back in Nov. 2012. I certainly don't have any gripes with our 32 year old boat. And - we still live aboard and plan to head to the BVI's next year.

Personally, I like the older Hunters. But finding a good one, where the previous owners took good care might be an issue. Same with any other boat. We have close friends with a Pacific Seacraft 37, they nearly lost the rig crossing to Bimini, because of poor maintenance. I can't blame the manufacturer, can I?

Heck....I don't know what other people have in mind when they buy a boat. No doubt, the cockpit on a Hunter 45 is huge! I'd love it, because that is where I spend most of the time on the boat. And really, I'm just not into long crossings. I've done a couple. Long as in 2-3 weeks. I'll leave that to the crazy old guy (Webb Chiles) sailing RTW on a Moore 24, and Ronnie Simpson (young Guy) doing the SHTP on a Moore 24 and an Olsen 30.

Really, these threads are hurtful. There are so many new sailors ( or wantabees) that read the posts here. I prove that a Hunter is fine for cruising the east coast and Bahamas. Mark J proves that a Bene 393 works for a RTW trip, if you know what the heck you're doing. Smackdaddy proves that there is value in the Hunter 40 (I'd love one). Maybe the "haters" should post why *their* choice is such a great value, instead of thrashing us....the ones that own Hunters, or other production boats?

So.... for Jon E and the rest, what is wrong with my way of thinking?

Ralph
3 Days Ago 12:46 AM
aeventyr60
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Sorry.....to much rum. Hell, I don't even know where the Andaman Sea is. My apology to aeventyr60.

Ralph
No Worries, just pass the bottle when you sail by!
4 Days Ago 11:46 AM
RTB
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Now I know. Thanks.
4 Days Ago 11:43 AM
SVAuspicious
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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I don't even know where the Andaman Sea is.
Off Thailand.
4 Days Ago 11:31 AM
RTB
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
I read post 972 as a statement of fact. Some of you have thin skin or a lack of reading comprehension.
Sorry.....to much rum. Hell, I don't even know where the Andaman Sea is. My apology to aeventyr60.

Ralph
4 Days Ago 01:28 AM
Andrew65
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Happy Birthday Marty!

May you always be able to keep your mast up straight!
4 Days Ago 01:01 AM
blt2ski
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I'm in the living again years, got one year closer to golden years today.......that is 50 and 60's. One is really old in there 40's, old in 30's......old pharts are 70's, really old pharts 80's..... oh, and them depends years, are the 90's, ie depends if you need them or not! LOL

Happy B-day smackers!

Marty
4 Days Ago 12:25 AM
Andrew65
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Too ambiguous
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