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10-27-2011 02:30 PM
hellosailor Abundance....maybe of rockpiles but they're not barrier islands like Fire Isalnd on the Atlantic side. Weather just breaks over or around them. And good anchorages that don't have rocky bottoms, or aren't formal achorage areas requiring someone's permission, or actually have enough shelter to make them useful? Not so much. Sometimes those boulders on the bottom get in the way of keels, too.

But when someone refers to the Long Island shore, they usually mean the south shore, the Atlantic side, unless they've said "Sound". All the inlets on the Atlantic side can be outright dangerous because of tidal currents, adverse wind, and shifting shoals. Just like many of the Jersey shore inlets, even the local USCG station will sometimes tell you they can't come out because the inlet is too dangerous.

The problem with the Jersey shore is that for long stretches the bottom shoals fairly rapidly, coming in from the deeps to the shore, and that change in depth produces more wave action than many people expect. Combine the rough water with a lee shore, and a lot of folks get surprised. In contrast to the LI shore "just across the way" where the waves tend to be more of rolling ones, and the bottom shoals much more gently. Folks expect NJ to be much of the same, and get surprised.
10-27-2011 02:11 PM
peterchech Doesn't the sound (north) side of LI have an abundance of barrier islands and such? From the charts I would have thought it has plenty of anchorages on the way to Block Island. The south side though...
10-24-2011 06:04 PM
Tempest There was a guy in my Marina that was taking a Mac 65 to england...interesting vessel..I got a chance to board it. it looked like a torpedo outside and felt like a submarine inside.

After reading this old thread and others, I wonder why there's always a so much doom and gloom advice given about the coast of NJ...and it's shoal coastal water? if you stay 3 miles offshore you can be in 60 ft of water for most of the coast, double that distance and you're in 100 ft. It's +/- 24 hours to do the whole coast. If you consider AC as the best bailout point between Sandy Hook and Cape May it's even shorter between stops. I've never found it overly difficult to pick a good 24 hour weather window to do this trip. Granted, the prevailing wind if you're headed south..is often in your face, but with a decent weather west wind, or a passing low..with a northerly component you could sail.

I mean, compared to the Delmarva..( delaware and Virginia coastline) ....or North Carolina, and Hatteras......why is NJ any worse? Or is it our charming personalities people don't like..

The Long island coast..while a little closer to 100 ft of water...doesn't really have an inlet that I'd attempt to enter in anything but benign weather. So heading to block..and beyond..you're committed on that coast too.

BTW...Unless I'm mistaken...the shortest distance to Bermuda from the U.S. is from Nantucket...
10-24-2011 05:16 PM
deniseO30 He traded it for a Mac 26 and did world Circumnavigation?
10-24-2011 05:06 PM
eherlihy
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Originally Posted by woolswtr View Post
Thank you all very much for all the advice... I really appreciate it. It's good to hear a range of opinions and a lot of you bring up good points. I especially respect CruisingDad comments about putting USCG in possible harms way when someone does something obviously stupid and gets in trouble.

I will mull it all over... and be getting my boat ready. Regardless of Bermuda, I've got a lot of sailing to do this summer!

If I do head to Bermuda, I'll post on here how it ends up going.

Thanks,

-Mike
...and we never heard back from the guy... and he never posted again on Sailnet.

I wonder if he tried and didn't make it?

Perhaps he decided that we (the members of SailNet) are all AFOC... I guess we'll never know.
05-13-2007 02:30 AM
Sailormann
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today you wouldn’t catch me dead doing some of the things I did when I was younger.
I'll second that - when I look back now at what we did when young, I cringe and wonder how I could have been so stupid...no motor, no radio. Had a compass, a couple of charts and a good strong boat. Best time of my life
05-12-2007 09:48 PM
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05-10-2007 03:17 AM
tdw
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Originally Posted by hellosailor
"an egg timer set to 15 minutes."
You can soldier on through a lot of sh*t but the bottom line is that sleep deprivation kills. In the past 15 years a lot of work has been done on this, and the bottom line is that catnaps are not the same as sleep, if you aren't getting enough sleep every night, at some point your body will simply TAKE the sleep it needs. That may be 5-9 hours per night depending on the person, but it will catch up to you by the end of a week, and your body will simply go to sleep when it wants to.

There are enough rocks and wrecks on the appraoches to Bermuda, if you are going to do it solo and catnap, you may as well get sleep in 5-6 hour stretches and at least be able to function for the final haul in.
Tis true , as you say , but the reality is that while at certain times a single hander needs to be keeping that 15 minute window open there are also times when it would be considered safe (within reason) to have a decent kip. Part of the passage planning really. You simply cannot say that a single hander needs to be keeping a lookout 24 hours a day cos it ain't gonna happen. Yes it goes against the letter of the law but then so do lots of things.
05-09-2007 10:46 PM
hellosailor "an egg timer set to 15 minutes."
You can soldier on through a lot of sh*t but the bottom line is that sleep deprivation kills. In the past 15 years a lot of work has been done on this, and the bottom line is that catnaps are not the same as sleep, if you aren't getting enough sleep every night, at some point your body will simply TAKE the sleep it needs. That may be 5-9 hours per night depending on the person, but it will catch up to you by the end of a week, and your body will simply go to sleep when it wants to.

There are enough rocks and wrecks on the appraoches to Bermuda, if you are going to do it solo and catnap, you may as well get sleep in 5-6 hour stretches and at least be able to function for the final haul in.
05-09-2007 08:57 PM
tdw Can't comment on the boat cos we don't see many O'days of any size down here but the suggestion to join a rally seems an odd one.

As someone who likes the idea of single handing but acknowledges the watch keeping difficulties I can still think of nothing worse than being involved in a rally. I simply do not understand the attraction (other than the safety net) of those things. That said , I am something of an anti social old bugger. I go sailing to get away from other people not to meet them. That's why god gave us cities.

Regarding the haul to Bermuda, as has been mentioned, sleep is the tricky bit. Boason's advice is good. I've never done an overnight single handed but the trick according to the various cruising bibles is an egg timer set to 15 minutes. However before you actually set out you need to test yourself to see if you can exist for longer than 48 hours on 15 minutes catnaps. If you can't then you are in big trouble. Even two handed a longish haul is going to be hard on the crew. I'm presuming that the east coast of the US is a pretty busy place for shipping so you will have to keep good watches, even when you 'only' have to stand watch 12 hours a day, that could be a trial, particularly for any inexperienced crew or the poor soul who suffers from "mal de mer".

BTW it's Wombat's theory that to be truely successful the ability to catnap is indispensible.
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