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Interesting Sailboats

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Sirius 32, Sirius 35

THE OBJECT OF THIS THREAD:

Interesting sailboats in production and available on the new boat market (only boats with modern designs, meaning that the boats still in production but made with old designs are out). Recent designs out of production are also admissible.

Modern boat designs and modern one off, if interesting.

Classical boats and traditional boats.

Small cruisers (less than 35ft)

Seezunge 27ft: PG1-PT9

Hanse 325: PG19-PT185;

Presto 30 : 33-326; 33-327; 34-331; 34-333; 55-543; 55-544;

Tess Yachts: 37-366; 38-373;

Tess 28 Magnum: 37-369; 38-371;

Delphia 28: 38-373;

Vancouver 27/28 : 42-412; 72-717;

Cruisers between 35ft and 49ft


Catalina 355 : 31-306;

RM sailboats: PG5-PT41; 5-42

RM1050: PG5-PT46; 5-47; 5-48;

RM 1060: PG8-PT77; 8-78; 8-79; 8-80; 9-81; 30-295; 40-400; 79-786;

RM 1200: PG9-PT84; 9-85; 19-184; 20-191; 20-192; 41-404; 42-414; 42-418; 43-425; 43-426; 69-688;

RM 1350: PG9-PT82; 55-549; 95-943;

Morris Yachts: PG7-PT61

Bavaria 36: PG19-PT188; 19-190; 20-196;

Bavaria 40: PG10-PT95; 28-278; 29-281; 29-282; 29-283; 29-286; 32-316; 36-356; 51-502; 51-507; 52-518; 53-527; 53-532;

Bavaria 40s: 69-685; 78-775;

Bavaria 45: PG10-PT96; 19-190;

Rustler Yachts: PG11-PT104;

Jeanneau 409: PG11-PT103: 11-106; 30-298; 30-299; 36-356; 51-502; 51-504; 51-505; 51-509; 52-513; 52-514; 52-515; 52-516; 53-527; 54-532; 57-564; 57-570; 58-571; 58-580; 59-581; 59-583; 59-585; 62-614; 74-739; 91-906;

Jeanneau 439: 40-396; 40-397; 59-584; 59-585; 96-956;

Hanse Yachts: 16-154; 16-156; 16-158;

Hanse 400: 81-804;

Bluewater cruising yachts: 21-206

Beneteau Oceanis 37 : 31-306; 31-308; 31-309; 32-314; 55-541;

XC 38: 36-356; 96-954;

Diva 38: 39-386;

Diva 35: 40-391;

Dufour 405: 62-614;

Defline 43: 63-622

Walkabout 43: 93-923; 93-925; 93-927;

Small performance cruisers (less than 35ft)


Performance 32ft test: 29-87;

Sun Fast 3200: PG4-PT33; 4-34; 4-36; 30-293;

Elan 210: 70-691; 70-696; 78-779; 79-781;

Elan 310: PC7-PT64; 7-69; 8-71; 36-356; 41-408;

Quest 33: PG7-PT62

Olea 32: 25-243; 25-245;

First 27.7: 38-373; 38-380; 39-382;

First 30: 30-295; 39-356; 41-408; 55-545; 55-546;

Comet 26: 34-340; 35-345; 35-350; 36-353;

Pacer 30: 36-357;

Django 7.7: 40-399;

Vivace/Evosion 34: 45-442; 45-446; 45-445; 45-446; 45-447; 45-448; 45-449; 45-450; 46-458; 46-460;

Finn Flyer 34: 46-451; 46-453; 60-593;

Salona 34: 46-457;

Heol 7.4: 63-621; 63-622;

Azuree 33: 87-867; 91-902; 91-904;

JPK 10.10: 88-877 ; 88-880; 89-883;

Performance cruisers (between 35ft and 49ft)

Pogo 10.50: PG2-PT20; 3-27; 3-28; 3-30; 4-35; 5-50; 6-51; 6-52; 6-60; 11-101; 11-107; 11-110; 43-425; 44-440; 87-861; 87-867;

Pogo 12.50: PG13-PT125; 20-198; 20-199; 22-214; 27-264; 27-265; 27-269; 32-317; 32-319; 43-425; 43-426; 43-428; 44-432; 44-437; 44-439; 55-546; 55-547; 82-812; 84-831; 87-870;

Este 40: 89-890; 90-893; 90-899;

A35: PG5-PT42; 5-44; 66-660;

A40RC: 92-914;

Hammerhead 35: 64-645

Opium 39: PG5-PT42; 9-85; 9-89; 13-125; 22-220; 22-221; 43-426; 55-547; 86-857;

Aerodyne 35: PG7-PT62

Elan 350: PG7-PT64; 13-24; 13-126; 13-127; 13-128; 14-132; 18-178; 26-255; 36-356; 40-398; 41-405; 57-564; 59-589; 60-591; 72-711; 73-724; 74-738;

Elan 380: 23-223; 25-249; 26-256; 40-398; 59-589; 97-962;

Elan 410: 32-316; 79-784;

JPK 110: PG9-PT85; 10-91

Olea 44: PG10-PT100; 27-268;

Olea Yachts: 25-247;

Dufour 40e: Pg13-Pt125; 32-316; 55-547; 56-558; 56-559; 57-561; 57-562; 57-563; 59-586; 59-588,

Salona 37: 36-359; 41-406;

Salona 41: PG15-PT141; 15-145; 32-316; 36-356; 40-398; 54-538; 57-569; 78-778; 80-796; 80-798; 97-965;

Salona 42: PG15-PT145; 36-359; 40-398; 93-929; 94-932;

Cigale 16: PG15-PT148; 16-152; 17-161; 55-549; 63-625;

Cigale 14: PG17-PT163; 55-549;

Santa Cruz 43: PG17-PT169

Sydney Yachts: PG18-PT171; 18-175;

Sydney GTS 37: 43-423;

Sydney GTS 43: PG18-PT173;

Winner 12.20: PG20-193;

First 40: 31-304; 32-313; 32-316; 35-344; 36-354; 55-546; 55-547;

First 35: 36-356

Dehler 41: 30-296;

Dehler 44: 79-785;

Dehler 45: 36-356; 79-785;

Luffe 40.04: 30-300; 31-301; 31-303;

XP 38: 56-533; 56-544; 56-555; 67-622;

XP 44: 33-325;

Pacer 430: 36-357;

Pacer 376: 36-357; 66-652; 69-683;

Faurby 424: 36-360; 37-361; 37-363; 37-365;

Comfortina 39: 40-395;

J 133: 43-426; 63-620

J 111: 100-993;

Maxi 11: 99-982;

Arcona yachts: 46-456;

Arcona 410: 47-467; 47-468; 47-469; 48-471;

Arcona 430: 48-472;

Arcona 460: 50-495

Finngulf yachts: 46-456;

Varianta 44: 60-594; 60-595; 60-596; 60-597; 60-598; 64-639;

Imagine 53: 63-628;

Zou 40.2: 63-620

Ker 39: 68-676;

Finn-Flyer 42: 77-762;

Azuree 40: 85-842;

Loft 40: 85-848; 85-852;

Vivace 35: 90-895;

Sailing boats over 49ft

Zeydon 60 : PG 12-119;

JP 54: PG18-PT172;

Salona 60: 70-695;

Stadships: PG20-PT193; 20-195;

Pogo 50: 32-318; 32-319;

X-50: 54-537;

Murtic 52: 54-537;

Decksaloons and pilot house sailing boats

Sirius 32: PG1-PT1

Sirius 35: PG1-PT1; 1-10; 2-18; 50-491; 50-492; 60-559; 60-599;

Sirius 31: PG1-PT5; 2-17; 36-356;

Regina 35: 48-478;

Regina 40: PG11-PT104; 49-481; 49-483;

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Luffe 43DS: PG12-PT111; 12-115; 50-494;

Noordkaper 40: PG14-pt139;

Noordkaper yachts: PG16-PT155

Nordship 36: 30-297; 49-482;

Nordship 38: 49-482; 49-490;

Paulo's pilot house I: 38-376; 39-381; 39-383; 39-384;

Paulo's pilot house II: 69-682

Lyman & Morse 45: 38-379;

CR 38DS: 48-477; 48-478;

CR 40DS: 48-476; 48-478; 48-479; 50-494; 50-496; 50-497; 50-498;

Arcona 40DS: 50-494;

Racers

Figaro 2:pG4-PT36; 4-37; 5-42; 6-52; 6-53; 6-55; 6-56

VOR 70: PG16-PT160; 17-187

Farr 400: 67-661

Soto 40: 96-952;

Lifting keel/centerboarder

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Allures 45: PG10-PT93; 100-996;

Allures yachts: 25-248;

OVNI 425: 23-228;

OVNI 395 : 68-679; 69-690;

J 108: 67-661

Atlantic 43: 68-67

Boreal 44: 97-970; 98-974;

Multihulls till 34ft

Several Trimarans: 28-273;

Multihulls with 34ft and over

Dragonfly yachts: 26-257;

Dragonfly 35: 26-258; 27-261; 27-262;

Dragonfly 1200: 56-551;

Corsair 37: 28-276;

Farrier 39: 28-277;

Challenge 37: 28-278

Hammerhead 34: 29-385;

Hammerhead 54: 29-288; 30-292;

Trimax 10.80: 29-285;

Sig 45: 54-534; 54-539; 54-540;

Gunboat: 56-551

Fusion: 56-551;

Outremer: 56-551;

Tournier: 56-511;

Classical and Traditional boats

Jclass boats: 54-537;

Tofinou 12: 71-703;

Folck boat: 73-727;

Puffin Yachts: PG14-PT135; 14-138; 16-155;

Bestwind 50: PG12-PT116; 14-123;

Bestevaer 53: PG12-PT116;

Bestevaer yachts: PG16-PT155

Cape George 36: 41-410; 42-412;

Marieholm 33 : 42-412;

This list is not actualized. Please use the advanced search engine of the thread with the name of the model and builder. It works, most of the time.

(actualized till PG100) and it will be no more because that gives a lot of work (500 pages now).

Instead I am actualizing the titles and with the right title the thread search engine (not the one on the top of the page bit the one much below that says search thread) on its advanced option works quite well.

Hello,

Melrna posts on Miami Boat show and the comments of Smackdady about the interest of that thread lead me to think that perhaps I could share more information about sailboats I know and find interesting.

I am interested in boat design (interior and sailing performance) and I go each year at least to one of the main European Boat shows and that means basically Dusseldorf, Paris or Hamburg. On these shows you have the opportunity not only to visit the boats of the main and medium size builders but you have also the opportunity to visit the boats of small and sometime family shipyards.

Normally they build very good sailboats and sometimes they have been doing that for decades. The boats are hugely appreciated by their faithful customers but because they don't advertise their boats and there are very few on the used boat market, they pass unnoticed by the majority of the sail community.

The visit to these boats is a very rewarding experience because they are made with passion by true boat lovers and because when you talk to the guy that is on the boat, you are not talking with a dealer, that many times doesn't know much about boats, but with the builder, or the designer.

Even if you are not a buyer they will have real pleasure in talking with someone that really appreciates and understands their work. Those guys really believe in what they are doing and they do it the best way they can, no matter the cost. In a word, they are in love with what they are doing.
Of course, these boats have to be expensive.

This thread will be mainly about these boats, as a way of letting you know about these gems. Let's see if you are interested. I will not post much. If you want to know more you have just to participate and make questions.

The first one it will be the "Sirius". I have had the pleasure to visit several times their boats and to talk with the builders (father and son).

These boats have the best interiors you can find, or at least that I have seen. Not only the quality, but the design and ergonomy are fantastic. You really won't believe you are in a 32ft boat. Just incredible and amazing; Have a look at it:

Sirius-Werft Plön | Forecabin | 32 DS for 2 forecabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Owner´s cabin | 32 DS 4-berth comfort owner´s cabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Workshop | 32 DS for 2 workshop

Now that the son is in charge they have modernized the outside look of the new boats, they look fantastic not only inside but also outside. The boats sail well and they have clients as far as Japan.

Sirius-Werft Plön | Versions of decks house | You have the choice

Another interesting point is the way they develop new boats. They work with the clients to collect suggestions on the shape and design of the boats. A truly interesting affair, between passionate clients and passionate builders.

Sirius-Werft Plön | 35 DS | Philosophy

Take a good look at their interesting site and if you find the boat interesting, please let me know, I can add some information.

Sirius-Werft Plön | english | Welcome at website of Sirius-Werft Plön

Regards

Paulo
 
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#5,667 · (Edited)
Jörg Riechers finally on Open60 (IMOCA).

After his success on the Mini class and 40class the German sailor reached finally the top solo sailing class and Mare is also an Open60, unfortunately not a new one, a 2th generation one that it will be a 3th generation when the next Vendee starts (and that will limit his performance).

The boat is the old 2008 Foncia (Vendee Globe winner) that then changed the name for Mapfre ( Iker Martinez and Xabi Fernandez raced it in the last Barcelona World Race) and recently, on the last races was known as Maître Coq sailed by Jeremie Beyou.

He will race with Sébastien Audigane the 2014-5 Barcelona World Race and will do the next vendee globe.

A movie with the "new" boat:

http://tv.yacht.de/video/%26quot%3B...sche-Open-60/9bf447a767a7b6c0c21c5fb1f4470d51
 
#5,670 · (Edited)
Re: Jörg Riechers finally on Open60 (IMOCA).

After his success on the Mini class and 40class the German sailor reached finally the top solo sailing class and Mare is also an Open60, unfortunately not a new one, a 2th generation one that it will be a 3th generation when the next Vendee starts (and that will limit his performance).

The boat is the old 2008 Foncia (Vendee Globe winner) that then changed the name for Mapfre ( Iker Martinez and Xabi Fernandez raced it in the last Barcelona World Race) and recently, on the last races was known as Maître Coq sailed by Jeremie Beyou.

He will race with Sébastien Audigane the 2014-5 Barcelona World Race and will do the next vendee globe.

A movie with the "new" boat:

"Mare", der erste deutsche Open 60 - Yacht TV - Segel Videos von Europas größtem Yacht Magazin
I'd rather like to see Boris Hermann instead of Jörg Riechers in an Open60...

The video seems to be pretty old. The boat is modified yet...
 
#5,669 ·


Hi all,

Have not posted for long time, however have been following the thread. Browsing the web I found out the Infiniti yacht brand (thought it was brand bane only for fast luxurious cars). Though not cars, they have patented the DSS (Dynamic Stability System) representing use of additional foils. They seem to be interesting though on the hi-end.

I thought Paulo and all others would find such boats intriguing. I did not find, however, their basic parameters although they seem to be very light and able to carry a lot of sail (like the multihulls).

Rumen
 
#5,671 · (Edited)
Hugh welbourn and DSS



Hi Rumen, Glad to know that you still follow this thread:)

Yes it it was posted long ago but it is a nice one:



The creator of DSS, Hugh welbourn is associated with Infiniti yachts, that are designed also by him. I hope that after the victory of the Wild Oats and the validity of the DSS system proved in racing, we will see finally that 100ft having an order that allow it to see the light of the day.

Even out of DSS system Hugh welbourn had proved himself as designer on the racing field with the design of the DK 46 (2002), a great performance cruiser with a long list of victories. The boat is also sometime given as a Mills design?? maybe Hugh Welbourn worked for mills at the time?



He also designed the JK 50 that would be the first true cruiser with a DSS system. They start yo build the boat but it was sold before it was finished and I don't think it is on the water yet. A very nice cruiser though.









Regards

Paulo
 
#5,672 ·
true - the JK looks really nice...
i like the full height doors (its no longer a companionway, isn't it) into the saloon...

on another note from their website:
"NEWS FLASH - Bare hull and deck
fully faired with Engine and machinery
installed AVAILABLE NOW
email james@jkyachts.com for more info"

JKyachts builders of the JK50DSS - JK yachts
are they really selling a bare hull to anyone for finishing the boat in his backyard or some other place?
 
#5,674 · (Edited)
Fantastic story: mini racers are very strong boats!!!

I have posted recently a video of a mini boat being salvaged after being thrown to a beach, well, I have another rescue story, one even more unbelievable, regarding this Pogo and Federico Fornaro:



He was doing the last Transat, everything went fine till only 300NM from the finish where he broke both rudders and have to be rescued leaving the boat. Later he tried to find the boat on the islands.... Here is his incredible story, translated from Italian:



Federico Fornaro , an Italian skipper (from Roma) saw his dream to finish the last mini transat end at only 300 miles from Guadeloupe.

The failure of both rudders had forced him to abandon his Mini racer, Jolie Rouge, to be rescued by the Imaginaire, one of the six support boats that followed the race.

For a sailor, losing his boat, it's like losing a loved one . Federico once arrived on land forget the disappointment for not having made it and started ...the search of his beloved 6.50 racer.

This is the story:

... After 30 days at sea , a few miles from the finish, with damages on the rudders the Roman navigator is on trouble.... ""I felt the tiller blocked, the steel support broke and the left rudder was slamming against the transom risking to open a breach in the hull".

Frederick disassemble the damaged blade and continues to navigate with a rudder alone, hoping not to over stress it. " Vain hope: the blade of the right rudder cannot stand alone and on the night the steel support broke in a way that could not be repaired. The boat was uncontrollable....I can not fight anymore ... help arrives and... I've abandoned my girlfriend , I've sacrificed it so I can save myself ... I still watch the waves roll Jolie and it breaks my heart.

...But his boat is his traveling companion. For him it has a soul that is invisible to the eyes of others and abandoning it in the middle of the sea is like leaving a friend drown in the waves.

...
The eyes of Frederick , on arrival in Guadeloupe, express a tired deep sadness but on the middle of that anguish , you can see a shimmer , a little hope of finding Jolie Rouge and save her from the cruel fate of finding eternal rest in the bottom of the ocean or in the clutches of sharp rocks.

... "I left the satellite locator working and it has continued to emit a GPS signal , and so every day I received the coordinates of the drifting boat" . Thus began a treasure hunt : "The boat pushed by winds of South- East advancing at the speed of 1K with a route that took over the West Indies. I went to the island of Saint Martin that lying to the North seemed to be the best starting point to begin a search . "

Madness ? Tenacity ? Romance ? Maybe a little of all drove Frederick. "The wind increased to 30 knots forming a beautiful sea. I am struggling to find a boat available to leave for what would be a great amount of upwind sailing.

Then I remember Manu, a Brittany sailor who sails the Atlantic avoiding as much as possible land. He offers me help and is available to sail away. ... two great sailors in search of adventures, begin the search for the small sailboat . " It is now a race against time, the boat could either be intercepted by some local fisherman or worse, crashing on a reef in Barbuda."

After a night of navigation , at dawn, the first good news: " Near the north-east coast of the island we see a tree without sails that appear and disappear on the waves that break on the reefs: Jolie Rouge seems to have stopped just before the breakers. "

But it's too dangerous to approach Manu's boat , we need to find fishermen for helping with the rescue. " I went ashore and found a village with a few low houses, a small bar and an immigration office where we are forced to fill a lot of forms, piles of paper and stamps. ....

" A small group of local fishermen agrees to take us out with their motor boat , but not before putting gasoline, which means losing more hours to go to fill the tanks on the other side of the island ." ..." we saw first the inclined mast and then the boat lying on its side on the reef. As if that were not bad enough , other men on a small boat were looting the boat. Between shouts and curses I jumped to my boat and they, in minority give up quickly , but not before stilling the generator the, GPS, various equipment .

The boat had small fractures, but it has a hard "skin" and we manage to tow it to Saint Martin were it was put on the hard. It is saved!!!

Now I can go back to Rome, glad to be able to change the ending of this story. But is this really an end?


L?incredibile storia di Federico Fornaro e del suo Jolie Rouge, ritrovato dopo due settimane! | Giornale della Vela - notizie di vela - regate - crociera
 
#5,678 · (Edited)
Re: Mad sailing

The Australians are great sailors but if we took this video as an example, also mad sailors:D. Who would think of racing on these conditions? Olé!!!!:D
Granted! ;)
have you ever seen the aussies or kiwis compete in their 12ft skiffs?
those little boats are so massively overcanvased, they are rather "flown" than actually "sailed"... :)
i know that there are better videos out there but couldn't find one in a hurry:


damn it - i cannot make that iframe work...
 
#5,677 ·
Directly from the Mini to the VOR.

Justine Mettraux (27) joins the girls on the VOR SCA.

The ones that followed with us the last mini Transat know well Justine and her big talent. She finished 2th on the series, but most of all, very close to the overall leaders and well ahead of most protos. A quite incredible race that seem to have not staid unnoticed.

These ladies under the leadership of Samantha (Sam Davies) risk to be quite a problem for men's teams:D

They have been training hard on their pink boat:

 
#5,681 ·
Re: Directly from the Mini to the VOR.

Justine Mettraux (27) joins the girls on the VOR SCA.

The ones that followed with us the last mini Transat know well Justine and her big talent. She finished 2th on the series, but most of all, very close to the overall leaders and well ahead of most protos. A quite incredible race that seem to have not staid unnoticed.

These ladies under the leadership of Samantha (Sam Davies) risk to be quite a problem for men's teams:D

They have been training hard on their pink boat:

Really thrilled to hear that Justine is getting time on the VOR 65. Just what she needs in the lead up to the TeamWork IMOCA campaign, in which I hope she plays a major role (with Bertrand Delesne, of course). :D

It seems to me that even if the SCA team never made it to the starting line, the sponsorship is already a very big marketing benefit for the SCA corporation. Just watching these women pushing hard on the VOR 65 in big breeze is inspirational and very cool. Anyone who has ever sailed on a big boat in strong winds knows how physically and mentally demanding it is. And here we have these terrific women sailors really working it at the highest level of the sport.

Exactly the sort of thing that parents would want their own daughters to aspire to, and which (hopefully) would give their sons more respect for their sisters and girls/women in general.

And anytime some idiot starts trashing women on race boats, we can be 100% certain he is a fool who knows nothing.
 
#5,679 ·
New Flagship for Dehler: Dehler 46

a very sleek Judel / Vrolijk design:





Since Dehler passed to be controlled by Hanse, and after some design and quality issues (interior) that seem to have resolved on the 38, only good things have come from Dehler, including the price of the boats. This one is announced for 261 000 euros including German VAT and that seems amazing.

The boat looks good and the basic dimensions too:

Design............... Judel / Vrolijk & Co
Hull length......... 13,95 m
Total length....... 14.40 m
Waterline length.. 12,90 m
Beam .................4.35 m
Weight.............. 10.7 t
Ballast / ratio...... 3.5 t/33%
Draft................. 1.85/2.25/2.70 m
Engine............... 39 kW/53 hp
 
#5,682 ·
Re: New Flagship for Dehler: Dehler 46

a very sleek Judel / Vrolijk design:

Since Dehler passed to be controlled by Hanse, and after some design and quality issues (interior) that seem to have resolved on the 38, only good things have come from Dehler, including the price of the boats. This one is announced for 261 000 euros including German VAT and that seems amazing.
Gorgeous boat. After eliminating Germany VAT (19%) you're probably looking at about $300K / €221K FOB in the United States, with sails, electronics, options and import duty. That's simply astounding for a 46 foot boat of this quality. For comparison purposes, this is probably less than half of what the NYYC Swan 42 cost new, and still less than you can get one on the used market. No question which boat I'd prefer to own. :D
 
#5,684 ·
Multihulls...

Hi guys!

Did some catching up on this thread, happy to see you´re still going strong with the thread Paulo!! And I saw that you made some posts about multihulls, thought I might chime in:p

The Whisper 29 is (I think) also called Aeromomentum 29 or AM29 or Chang Mei 29 or JE29 or something like that and is probably 10 year old or so design. It´s a bit messy, I think it was designed by a semi-known na to be built in asia under the name Chang Mei 29. But then the builder used low quality materials which resulted in low quality boats. The na prohibited the builder to keep building but they kept on building it anyway:hammer. At least this is what I´ve heard. I´m not sure where the Whisper is built and by who, hopefully not the asian builder... Anyway, looks to have rather low finish and the design is not very good IMHO. :rolleyes:

I did some research of Aventura cats and especially the Aventura 33 a couple of years ago. Interesting boats if you ask me, although I read a review of the 33 and it was apparently not very fast. At least it looks fast! :)

And to save the best for last! The KISS Multihull T29 trimaran! Designed by Stefan Törnblom (who can be seen sitting in the cockpit on one of the pictures sippin' on a beer!). My first boat, the Seaon 96, was also designed by Stefan. I think this is his follow-up design. The Seaon was definitely a very fast boat and this is probably even fast, at least in light winds. Very spartan interior and not very cozy, but hey, this boat is made for sailing :D. I did have some issues with the Seaon though that made me question the NA a bit. Maybe this one holds up better :cool: What I do think is really cool is the soft wing sail, I want that on my boat! I thought about it earlier, had some email conversation with Omer Wing Sail inventor, but dropped the idea. Maybe not too late though, my boat isn´t finished yet...:p

Cheers!

//Mr W
 
#5,685 · (Edited)
Tony Grainger new babies.

Talking about trimarans, the name of Graiger is not well known in Europe. Its designs serve mostly Oceania sailors and are well known there but his new designs seem so hot and so out of the shelf that I risk to say that soon he will be known on the other side of the world too. Just have a look:

Rocket 25:





Rocket 42



Rocket 52





Raw 30:







http://www.rocketfactorytrimarans.com/
 
#5,686 ·
Re: Tony Grainger new babies.

Talking about trimarans, the name of Graiger is not well known in Europe. Its designs serve mostly Oceania sailors and are well known there but his new designs seem so hot and so out of the shelf that I risk to say that soon he will be known on the other side of the world too.
Grainger designs look really nice, it's a shame there are not many of them around in my neighborhood! We do have some Seacarts though, they're also nice for racing. I really wouldn't mind a second boat for racing and fun. My Dragonfly will be used almost exclusively for family cruising. My brother races his Arcona 340 quite a bit, but I know that he has caught the multihull fever a little too:D. We have toyed with the idea of getting a small trimaran, probably a Corsair Sprint or Dash, to race just the two of us. Not this year though! I'll go to Denmark in May to bring my boat home and I want to spend at least one summer with the boat before deciding on yet another one:rolleyes: But until then, a little daydreaming is allowed:cool:

//Mr W
 
#5,688 · (Edited)
Stamm's Open 60 found afloat.

Damn, they don't exaggerate when they say these boats are unsinkable. Not even broken in half they go down.:D

Stamm's boat was found afloat offshore Isle Vierge, near the French coast. Bernard Stamm is on route for recovering his boat that should be towed to Aber Wrac.


Marquage épave Cheminées Poujoulat por OuestFranceFR

I guess we are going to see Cheminées Poujoulat racing again. I hope this time they make a proper and full repair of the boat and take the opportunity to make it more competitive.
 
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#5,695 ·
Re: Dragonfly 25

While I´m at it I might as well show the new, concept stage Dragonfly 25! :rolleyes:

http://www.dragonfly.dk/media/67305/final-25-030114_500x275.jpg

Mr W

Edit: How do I post the pic? Long time ago...
Here it is:

It looks more modern. Dragonfly are great boats but in what regards the outside design they could look more sharp and this ones looks better.

For posting pics the better is to have them posted on a free photo site (photobucket for instance) and then post the link.

Regards

Paulo
 
#5,698 · (Edited)
Loick Peiron is learning new tricks.

We have talk here several times about Cammas, that by the way is going to be at the wheel of the French team on the next AC, but talked less about another French sail legend, Loick Peiron.

Loick is older, I mean he is really old for a top racer (55). He started is sailing carrier by winning the 1979:eek: mini transat and his accomplishments are too long to post here but I guess all know he is the holder of the absolute sail circumnavigation record and besides that maybe its bigger accomplishment is to have won for six times the Trophée Clairefontaine.

I bet many don't know what is that and why it is important, well it is a French thing, kind of the race of the Champions regarding sail. They invite world champions from all sail categories and the best to win.

Peyron is by far the record holder of that race that he won 8 times, 5 of them in a row. The guy that stopped that row was a certain Franck Cammas that have won for 3 times. There are also a Mr Desjoyeux that have won for 4 times….and the last year's winner was a certain Gabart:D.

But Peyron is learning to sail again and stayed near the tail on the last world championship he had entered .....and that just puts him higher on my consideration because the championship was with this "things" that he decided to learn how to fly with 54 years of age. Big balls:D





Of course, even near the tail of a world championship he was far from ridiculous and just racing there says how good he is already with the "Moth". Maybe next year he would fight for the top places, after all he is just the new kid on the block and he is learning.

What a Character:D, have a look at this interview:



 
#5,699 · (Edited)
Stamm towing his boat



They have talked about the boat breaking in half but for what we can see it seems that it was the bow section that broke.

Stamm dived today under the boat and was surprised to see that the keel and bulb (almost half the weight of the boat) are still there. the boat was violently shaken by the storm and the cabin's top was destroyed. It is incredible how the airtight compartments that make the boat unsinkable could maintain the boat afloat, considering that it is broken in two parts, with a broken cabin top and supporting almost 4 tons of ballast.
 
#5,702 · (Edited)
Robert Louis Stevenson, a cruiser.

I guess that cruising as a word did not exist at that time and the best he could find as a substitute was travel even if today cruising was more appropriated to what he wanted to describe. The quote is this one:

"I travel not to go anywhere but to go. I travel for travel's sake. the great affair is to move...To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive.."

A cruiser I would say. If on those days small offshore cruising sailboats were almost non existent I am sure he would have own one and would have cruised it extensivelly and then he could have said:

I cruise no to go anywhere but to sail. I cruise for cruising's sake. The great affair is sailing;)

In fact he cruised on a sailboat, even if only for some years, a charted one:

"In June 1888 Stevenson chartered the yacht Casco and set sail with his family from San Francisco. ..The sea air and thrill of adventure for a time restored his health, and for nearly three years he wandered the eastern and central Pacific, stopping for extended stays at the Hawaiian Islands, where he spent much time with and became a good friend of King Kalākaua. .. He spent time at the Gilbert Islands, Tahiti, New Zealand and the Samoan Islands. ... Fanny undertook on the Casco from the Hawaiian Islands to the Marquesas and Tuamotu islands. An 1889 voyage, this time with Lloyd, on the trading schooner Equator, visiting Butaritari, Mariki, Apaiang and Abemama in the Gilbert Islands, (also known as the Kingsmills) now Kiribati. .."

I love the man and his personality. Some more quotes that in some way define him:

There is no foreign land; it is the traveller only that is foreign

To be what we are, and to become what we are capable of becoming, is the only end of life.

Youth is wholly experimental.:D

To hold the same views at forty as we held at twenty is to have been stupefied for a score of years..

"To be overwise is to ossify; and the scruple-monger ends by standing stockstill."

Most of our pocket wisdom is conceived for the use of mediocre people, to discourage them from ambitious attempts, and generally console them in their mediocrity. And since mediocre people constitute the bulk of humanity, this is no doubt very properly so.

Books are good enough in their own way, but they are a mighty bloodless substitute for life.

Wikipedia
 
#5,703 ·
and there he goes again,

trying to cross the Atlantic on the yellow mini-mini made of an exotic material. Bad year to try a stunt like that.

Well, 2th try, let's hope that Harald Sedlacek has more luck now. He plans to do the crossing in 40 days. Good luck to him, but a mad stunt anyway.







You can follow his voyage and now more about the boat material here:

New sailing records - FIPOFIX® (EN)
 
#5,704 · (Edited)
Re: and there he goes again,

trying to cross the Atlantic on the yellow mini-mini made of an exotic material. Bad year to try a stunt like that.

Well, 2th try, let's hope that Harald Sedlacek has more luck now. He plans to do the crossing in 40 days. Good luck to him, but a mad stunt anyway.

You can follow his voyage and now more about the boat material here:

New sailing records - FIPOFIX® (EN)
I got aware of that project some time ago and really tried to figure out, what that fipofix would be... Apart from a rather awkward sounding marketing name, at least to me... ;)

I also found no information regarding the abandoned first attempt, where norbert sedlacek sailed that dinghy... The only austrian - and ironically the first german speaking (stamm is swiss, but from the french part) - to have ever competed in the vendee globe - he became dead last, had a rather old boat and he is an adventurer - not a racer... ;)
Harald is his son

Edit:
The first quotes from your stevenson post would fit bernard montessier perfectly as well... ;)
 
#5,706 ·
Thank's mr pelicano...
I knew about the volcanic stuff from their homepage but it does not reveal what is in it exactly... Volcanic material goes from pumice to granite and non of this stuff is known for its tensile strength... Carbon is also not known for tensile strength, but it comes in a wide variety of configurations which goes from diamond to graphite and back via fulerenes, nanotubes and meets with diamond again in the form of graphen...
I really would like to know what is in it, because 'rock' is a lot of different elements and molecules all mixed up... ;)
 
#5,708 ·
As Pelicano said, I had already posted about it:

I don't think you can do an Ocean racer smaller than the Mini6.50 not on account of the boat but on account of seaworthiness and safety. You have some guys doing the Pogo 2 in America and the boat is not expensive for an Ocean racer.

Regarding the material that's another story. That's a CFS (Carbon Fiber Stone) material and the first I herd about CFS was on the Salona shipyard. In fact they use the material, not with volcanic stone but with granite that seems even strange to me. In fact if you order a Salona (any of them) in IBC specifications (infusion based carbon) the bulkheads are made in CFS, using granite. Take a look at the movie and stop exactly om 1.00 minute and you will see. All bulkheads are made with that material. It is not painted black it is just its color:



I saw the material there, it comes in big panels and its weird, black as the night, very light and very strong.

I looked at the time on internet searching for the material and I found very little. It says well from Salona since they are using it on top performance boats for years. Maybe because they are a small subdivision of a huge plastics and fibers manufacturer they have access to information and top materials in what regards the plastic/fibers development.

You should see my face when they asked to me if I wanted granite bulkheads on my boat:D

Some more information:

Towards a new Stone Age

http://technocarbon.de/presse/SD_CM_02_08_technocarbon.pdf

PS: that boat can have also an interior made of a lighter material (and more expensive) but it seems to me that it is a normal interior. The mast, boom and wheels are carbon but it has also teak decks so it is not a top racer. Some guy that wanted a fast but comfortable boat.
 
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