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07-26-2014 10:55 AM
captain jack
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

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Originally Posted by eherlihy View Post
+1 on the hull deck joint seam.

I would also suggest that you check the hoses to any/all of your tanks. There could be a crack in the hose which leaks only when heeled. It could also be a tank vent hose.
after i posted, i read the entire thread. a of those things were suggested but he never found the cause and the issue went away on it's own. personaly, i hate problems that fix themseves without you finding the resolution. my best friend in high school had an electrical problem with his 66 mustang that woud go away before he could find the cause...and then it woud come back, dissappearing again before he could find it. it went on like that the entire time he owned that car. never did find the cause.
07-26-2014 08:13 AM
eherlihy
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

+1 on the hull deck joint seam.

I would also suggest that you check the hoses to any/all of your tanks. There could be a crack in the hose which leaks only when heeled. It could also be a tank vent hose.
07-25-2014 07:04 PM
captain jack
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

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Originally Posted by chartscharts View Post
Hey all,

Just back from a great trip out for an overnight anchorage (saw dolphins, whales, and more).

But I saw again an issue that I've been meaning to post about and pick your collective brains for clues.

I keep my CAL-29 on a mooring ball. Normally her bilges under the cabin floor are nice and dry. However, if I take her out sailing for a day or two (like this last trip) with lots of pitching and rolling and heel her over a lot, there's a couple of inches of water in the forward part of the bilge under the cabin sole at the end of the trip.

So I'm trying to think what it might be from. Here's my thoughts. What am I forgetting?

1. Shaft packing gland. On the CAL29, this would fill the bilge under the engine first, and if it got high enough, go over the baffles and forward into the bilges under the cabin sole. But this isn't the problem here. Monitored during use this trip (and others) and there's just the tiny bit that'd you'd expect. Not even regular drips, just a drop or two every few minutes. Bilge under the engine has some water in it, but no where near the top where it'd overflow into the forward bilge areas.

2. Icebox. Nope, it wasn't running and didn't have anything it it. It wasn't cold. The CAL29's icebox does drain to the bilge, but this can't be it.

3. Condensation from elsewhere. Maybe, but why only see it in the bilge after a long sail? Wouldn't I see that all the time?

4. Water over the bow and going down the chain locker? Maybe, but I don't remember any waves coming over the bow. I don't think this is it.

5. Rainwater leaking down from mast step? Nope, no rain on this trip. On the rare times it rains (in San Diego), as long as she stays on her ball her bilge stays dry even with the rain.

6. Shower drain? The CAL 29 shower drains into the bilge but I don't use it. No water leaking in the shower pan from anywhere that I can see or think of.

7. Something in the head system? Maybe, but the bilge doesn't stink like I think it would if it came from something in the head. Use the head on the mooring ball with no water in the bilge afterwards. Water only shows up after a sail.

What else could it be that only shows up after a rigorous sail?

-James
i haven't read any of the other replies, yet, but have you checked the hull/deck seam? if you are heeled way over, perhaps it is leaking. that is something that would not happen when moored; only when sailed.
07-22-2014 08:42 PM
Waltthesalt
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

Water from aft would go into the deep bilge pocket so it's coming from forward. Water getting in thru the anchor chain cap would drain there. The forward water tank is next. check the hoses and vent line. Next could be the opening ports, check with a hose. Then the forward hatch may need a new gasget. Finally flushing water for the head if you're using it underway, leaky hose, probably no anti-siphon loop.
07-22-2014 06:26 PM
Capt Len
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

That's one of the blessings of a wooden boat. You usually know where the water's coming in.
07-22-2014 09:35 AM
svHyLyte
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

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Originally Posted by chartscharts View Post
Well, I wish I could report that I found the cause. I never did. I just stopped.

No wonder sailors are superstitious.
So... What... You don't believe in Water Fairy's? Just how long have you been sailing?
07-22-2014 09:00 AM
Cal31Windchaser
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

I fully understand. My 31 will not go back into the water until this winter, so for right now my water in the bilge mystery will have to wait. Meantime I have rebedded everything on deck with butyl tape and am running a dehumidifier to dry everything out.

Next job on the long list is blister repair and new bottom paint. I just love sailing...particularly on those rare occasions that I get to sail.
07-21-2014 07:48 PM
chartscharts
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

Well, I wish I could report that I found the cause. I never did. It just stopped.

No wonder sailors are superstitious.
05-21-2014 09:23 AM
svHyLyte
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

Ensure you check your forward lower chain-plates and the forward sides of the bulkhead they're bolted to. Unfortunately, the chain-plate deck covers of the Cal 29 are famous for allowing water penetration. When heeled in a seaway, the water will migrate down the corner between the bulkhead and the hull to the forward bilge area under the shower-pan in the hull liner. BTDT...
05-21-2014 08:22 AM
chartscharts
Re: Mystery water in bilge in CAL-29

Not yet. She's getting hauled for a bottom clean/paint this morning (previously planned) so we'll see if anything turns up upon inspection from that angle.
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