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04-12-2007 07:40 PM
CharlieCobra You could always have NO winches like mine, just cleats. Ya better be quick to set the Genoa after a tack or you'll be cussing all day. I aim to change that as soon as I figure out a place to put 'em.
04-12-2007 05:39 PM
tenuki for some reason the two cabin winches on my R24 were in front of cleats. I was like, huh? I guess clutches are relatively new eh? I wanna replace the worn plastic cleats with clutches anyway, guess I'll be moving the winches as well.
04-05-2007 09:57 PM
skrap1r0n Good post. thanks. One of the fist things I am working on is to organize the running rigging. I have to get 2 new winches (amonst other things) and this really explains to me where and why I need to place them.
04-05-2007 07:31 PM
Giulietta you blind????

We have show you the light.....Elan....oh well
04-05-2007 07:00 PM
sailingguy123 Thanks for the illustration Giuletta. I'm going to go look at Elans tomorrow and we'll see what I think of them.
04-04-2007 08:07 PM
Giulietta is the drwaing I wanted to show you. This is my setup, and can be the GS's too, if you specify it.

04-04-2007 01:44 PM
Giulietta Sail...

Really it depends...on race boats yes...there is faster boom moves, the winches normally are two speed allowing fine trim, and allow better control by a main man. Its just a more practical solution with less effort, and mainly a speed reason. Also and a big allows the main control from either side of the boat, as the main sheet is a continuous loop. So In fact, while sitting at my wheel on the high side I have both sails controls near I tack, I move to the other side...and BINGO...same sail controls there!!!! clever, huh??

The purchase system is normally used on smaller boats, altough some large racing boats also have it with a larger purchase for course trim, and a smaller purchase in series for fine trim. I don't like it...takes a lot of speed from it.

In a boat like the really is not that are not racing..just sailing fast...
its pretty good will not sit right behind the whell, like on a'll be sitting on the side...enjoying balcony view, sheet at your feet!!!

I would love to make you a drwaing, but have work to do, and my IP does not allow photobucket access..I'll try tonight at the Hotel
04-04-2007 12:23 PM
sailingguy123 Does having the extra set of winches for the main make it easier to control than having a purchase? Are the winches necessary for larger sails that require more power to handle than can be done with a purchase? I am a bit confused. Thanks for your patience Giuletta.
04-04-2007 10:56 AM
Giulietta sailingguy

I see your confusion

Lets see the different winch arrangments

1) ELAN has 4 winches, 2 winches on top of cabin, 2 in cockpit. The cabin ones is one for halyards, one for main ,and the 2 in the cockpit for the genoa.

2) GS older models have 4 winches, 2 in cabin for halyards, outhauls etc, 2 in the cockpit for the genoa, main is controlled by purchase near the end of the boom
3) The newer GS have 6 winches, 2 in cabin for halyards, outhauls etc, 2 in the cockpit for the genoa (forward) and 2 in cockpit rear for main control in the Admirals system. I have that system in my boat.

HERE IS THE DRAWING I COULD NOT POST THAT SHOW HOw to single hand with 6 winch system like I have

04-04-2007 10:55 AM
camaraderie Guys...problems with posting pictures normally. I put them in the Gallery under my name for Giu.
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