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2 Weeks Ago 10:52 AM
christian.hess
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

I would love to go to new orleans just to taste the food scene! well I can hep with boat stuff too

jajaja

as soon as I get a break from work I would love to travel locally...

cheers

ps. good luck with the refit...sounds awesome!
2 Weeks Ago 09:40 AM
Group9
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Quote:
Originally Posted by christian.hess View Post
hey bud long time no see! where are you again in the gulf?

just moved to the "area" wanting to see the ocean here soon and sail

hows some beer and chefy food for a nice ride down in the gulf? jajajaja
Hey, I heard you moved north. We are trying to get ready for a May departure on our next extended cruise and we are basically stripping the boat down to nothing for repairs and cleaning, so we're not going anywhere for a while!

But, anytime you are down near New Orleans, (I'm actually 70 miles east of there) give me a shout and I'll show you a cool part of the US (before Katrina, Emeril used to live in the same town I did, Pass Christian, and his kid went to the same school mine went to, and we would run into him and his wife every once in a while, but his house got wiped out with everyone elses.)
2 Weeks Ago 11:22 PM
travlineasy
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Quote:
Originally Posted by killarney_sailor View Post
Gary
Could you share the names of the apps you mentioned. Thanks
I just saw them on TV a few weeks ago, and they were really neat - and I believe they worked on all the smart phones.

Here's a link for the Blackberry: The ECG Guide | QxMD Medical Apps

Here's one for an Android: AliveCor ECG comes to Android, transmits your palpitations to Instagram

Here's some more information that may be helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhmEd0BKNIY

Gary
2 Weeks Ago 10:10 PM
mbianka
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Originally Posted by killarney_sailor View Post
About engineless, we encountered 1.5 boats in our travels with no engines. One was a guy in Panama who was living on a lot less than $500 a month, near as I could tell. He had about a 32' boat with two junk rig masts that were actually light poles that had a tendency to break. Saw him come in and anchor in fairly close corners in 20 knots or so, did it beautifully. He mainly ate fish he caught and coconuts and his dinghy was a local dugout canoe and a paddle.

The other guy, who was in Indonesia on a Bristol 27 used a sculling oar and could tie his tiny dinghy (2.5 hp motor?) on as a yawl boat. One advantage of no engine in a smallish boat is a lot more storage space between the size of the engine and size of the tank.
Always wanted to try out a sculling oar out on my boat. An engine can be the biggest drain on expenses when cruising. You can repair a sail pretty easy an injection pump not so much. No engine equals less problems and less expense. But, you better have your a good anchor setup and your anchoring technique down pat. Something which is always good to practice with the engine in neutral from time to time. Hoisting the anchor without the windlass is also good to practice in case the windlass should ever break. Guess how I know?
2 Weeks Ago 08:42 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Its hard to keep things cool when the water temperature is >80įF (which is great except for keeping things cool). We did not have much experience with medical facilities but in most places you will be cruising, they are actually pretty good based on visits we made in French Polynesia (Papeete and Mangareva), Fiji, and South Africa.
2 Weeks Ago 08:22 PM
windnrock
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

erhaps it is time to start a new thread! We've gone from savings to sutures.

Both my wife and I are EMTs and spent the better part of a decade on ski patrol in Colorado. It was a great experience and exposed us to all kinds of wonderful trauma, exposure and a kluge of medical conditions. While we have made good use of our training outside of the patrol (car, bike and other incidents) we fortunately have not had to practice on each other. Well, not much anyway. We do have an extensive kit that we built into a large pelican case. We designed it in a modular fashion and tried to consider all eventualities, even those outside our levels of training. In the worst case a specialist can be contacted to "talk you through".
Some special items are a collapsible traction splint for mid shaft femur breaks and a pelvic girdle splint/stabilizer. These two are dangerous breaks due to blood loss. A cervical collar, they are pretty much flat and take up little room and one of the access covers in the salon we drilled to be used as a backboard if necessary. It is a great tool, not only to stabilize, but to move a victim around. We also have IV with normal saline and Ringers Lactate, with an option to do subcutaneous. Running a line when cold and wet on a pitching boat would not be easy. Subcutaneous uses a patch that has two small needles. It is slower than an IV but a:it is easy to apply and b: it is easier to wear and move around with.
One of the other considerations was to have enough sterile equipment and material to take with us to a third world medical facility if we need to.
We have an extensive pharmacy but, as was pointed out, many drugs have an expiration, certainly depending on storage. Much of it will last longer than the manufactures claim, especially if kept cool and dry. We store some in the bilge in a container with desiccants and some in the freezer the same way. Do keep a list of all prescription drugs, along with receipts and any other paperwork.
If you don't have much training, it's a good idea to get it, you are the first responder as well as the doctor, nurse and possibly surgeon. You might insist on you sailing partners to get it as well! Training is absolutely key, without it virtually anybody is lost.
Remember, when seconds count, help is only days away (if they heard you at all)!
2 Weeks Ago 07:20 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Gary
Could you share the names of the apps you mentioned. Thanks
2 Weeks Ago 07:07 PM
christian.hess
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Quote:
Originally Posted by killarney_sailor View Post
Pharmaceuticals are a good way to put a hole in a $500 a month budget since they can be pricey and they do expire. I am not a doctor (got my first aid badge in Scouts midway in the last century and did take a wilderness first aid course) but did take some care in setting up our first aid kit.

- antibiotics - one variety is not enough. We found that you need different antibiotics for different types and areas of infection. Best to talk about a doctor about this, but we started with Ciproflaxin and found that it was good for the types of infections we never had, but basically useless for skin infections - which are fairly common in tropical locations; we now have four different antibiotics for skin, digestive system, ears, dental, burns, etc. One that was highly recommended is an ointment called silvadene for burns. It prevents bacterial infections and allows healing with very little if any scarring. It was described by a senior doctor as a miracle drug.

- painkillers - you need a variety of strengths; the idea is to dull the pain but still allow you to function. The opioids tend to make you sleep, which way be exactly what you need in some circumstances, but at other times is not a good thing. Also, some painkillers have to be declared to customs

Often pharmaceuticals can be purchased over the counter or with a doctor's prescription very cheaply in less developed countries. You do have to take care about counterfeit drugs though. Also, most of the antibiotics and painkillers you need are far beyond patent protection so generics are available. These can be very cheap in some places.

it would be very easy to do down in el salvador...I now know few family doctors and those who took care of our newborn that for a small fee would glady set us up with a medical kit for offshore

however I(myself) pardon the redundancy would like to get a little more medically trained in order to do stuff on a trip and not feel completely overwhelmed

I have a problem that I get a little queezy with blood, my father had the same problem...I can power through it but its NOT fun, especially if you are the only real sailor say in a small family...

anhywhoo

Im all ears

wasnt there a thread started not too long specifically talking about medical kits for crusing?

maybe med sailor can pitch in here, jajaja
2 Weeks Ago 04:57 PM
travlineasy
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

The best first aid kit I own is a U.S. Army first aid kit, one that was put together 40 years ago. It's housed in a waterproof steel box, weighs about 10 pounds, takes up very little space, and was specifically designed for taking care of battlefield wounds. Turns out it's perfect for cruisers. Has pretty much everything you'll ever need for most injuries, including a suturing kit. I also carry 60 days of Doxicycline, 1,000 Bayer Aspirin, plus a 120-day supply of my normal heart meds. I even carry some nitro tabs in an airtight container to increase their effective time. Nitro tabs have a very short shelf life in an ordinary pill bottle, but in an air-tight container that is made of aluminum so no sunlight can penetrate, they will last up to six months.

I have a fairly extensive medical background, and more often than not, I've been more accurate in self diagnosis than most of my doctors at home. However, if something is seriously wrong, I still go to the local doc in a box, if for nothing else, that second opinion, and a host of useful diagnostic tools that I, obviously, do not have onboard. I can still read an X-ray pretty good, I can still read an EKG, Cat Scan, MRI, and I'm constantly aware of my symptoms. I also carry a stethoscope, automatic blood pressure machine, and pulse oximeter, essential tools that you can purchase online for very little money. And now, there are aps for your I-phone that can perform an EKG, EEG, and several other tests that can be emailed to a hospital or physician for his or her interpretation. When you're out there alone, these are essential tools to have aboard.

Good luck,

Gary
2 Weeks Ago 04:41 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Pharmaceuticals are a good way to put a hole in a $500 a month budget since they can be pricey and they do expire. I am not a doctor (got my first aid badge in Scouts midway in the last century and did take a wilderness first aid course) but did take some care in setting up our first aid kit.

- antibiotics - one variety is not enough. We found that you need different antibiotics for different types and areas of infection. Best to talk about a doctor about this, but we started with Ciproflaxin and found that it was good for the types of infections we never had, but basically useless for skin infections - which are fairly common in tropical locations; we now have four different antibiotics for skin, digestive system, ears, dental, burns, etc. One that was highly recommended is an ointment called silvadene for burns. It prevents bacterial infections and allows healing with very little if any scarring. It was described by a senior doctor as a miracle drug.

- painkillers - you need a variety of strengths; the idea is to dull the pain but still allow you to function. The opioids tend to make you sleep, which way be exactly what you need in some circumstances, but at other times is not a good thing. Also, some painkillers have to be declared to customs

Often pharmaceuticals can be purchased over the counter or with a doctor's prescription very cheaply in less developed countries. You do have to take care about counterfeit drugs though. Also, most of the antibiotics and painkillers you need are far beyond patent protection so generics are available. These can be very cheap in some places.
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