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02-10-2014 11:04 AM
Re: 40' Bayfield Ketch

I am an owner of Bayfield 36' on the Chesapeake. I sailed her in light winds and the performance is not too bad considering full keel and 18,500 lb displacement. In moderate winds her performance is good with nice tracking and very comfortable ride.
02-10-2014 10:56 AM
Re: 40' Bayfield Ketch

Here's a few other sites I use to research sailboats
Sail Calculator Pro v3.53 - 2500+ boats
Sailboat Links, Sailing sites, Sailboat Class Association List - use the "New Search"
Niagara 35 - Used Sailboat Market in Canada - brocheure style profiles and layouts and specifications of some sailboats
Atom Voyages - Good Old Boats List - brouchure style profiles and layouts, specificationa and comments on 20 to 32 foot blue water cruisers.
Sailboat Reviews of Offshore Cruising Yachts : - a good write-up, brouchure style profiles and layouts, specificationa and commenton blue water cruisers.
Practical Sailor - Sailboat Reviews - M - Practical sailor's review of many sailboats. A short blurb is free, but you have to purchase the full review.
02-10-2014 10:40 AM
Re: 40' Bayfield Ketch

Here's a couple of sites I used to research and compare sailboats:
Sail Calculator Pro v3.53 - 2500+ boats - great to compare two boats.
Sailboat Links, Sailing sites, Sailboat Class Association List - Had pictures/diagrams and specifications of lots of sailboats. I found I had to use the "New Search" function when searching by partial names.
02-10-2014 09:11 AM
Re: 40' Bayfield Ketch

I single hand a Bayfield 29', and most of what everyone is saying rings pretty true. Pretty slow, traditional and beautiful lines (imo), pretty rock solid in heavy weather, and nice and comfortable inside. The lack of a v-berth on my 29' allows for a very roomy head. The other point that rings very true is the ability to hold a course. I do not own an autopilot, but when the boat is balanced she holds course remarkably well. Many a day I have trimmed the sails, laid back and relaxed. Not very fast, but built solid, and I don't mind all the beautiful teak I have to take care of. I've been aboard a 36' and they are also very nice, haven't seen the 40' but I can imagine it is similar... except for the whole two masts thing.
02-10-2014 07:50 AM
Re: 40' Bayfield Ketch

Boat 3 was a Bayfield 36. Had it for 4 years. Also have owned a Pearson 22, a Cape Dory 28, a Little Harbor 52, and now a Morris 38. Yea, cannot make up my mind

I agree that a Bayfield is not a fast boat, but as we say in my neighborhood, it's wicked stable and comfortable. We could balance this boat and lock down the wheel and it would hold its heading for an hour. It's big for its size in terms of living arrangements, although the nav station was in a weird place (forward adjacent the head). It had both the jib and staysail on a roller. Nice when the wind piped up. We like the way they look, some people don't but that's a matter of taste.

Would I consider this boat for the Chesapeake? Depends what I wanted to do.
If I wanted to do the beer can races Wednesday night, probably not. If I wanted to beat my buddies short tacking up a narrow bay, probably not. If I was into comfort, liked the look, happy a bit more off the wind, wanted a boat that would tend itself under sail without an autopilot...then sure.

We believe in different boats for different folks at different times in their lives. This time, yea, I really think we're on the last one. Yup, this time I really mean it
02-10-2014 12:04 AM
Re: 40' Bayfield Ketch

Originally Posted by canadianseamonkey View Post
Hard to find a more beautiful boat. Perfect boat for the Caribbean and I doubt you'd be disapointed. Just don't expect to get anywhere quick..... full keel and heavy displacement. But you're sailing and don't need to get anywhere quick, that's the beauty!
If you want to get somewhere quick you don't buy a sailboat, I enjoy the motion of my heavy displacement full keel Allied princess ketch, nice lines too, this is an old thread but still, heavy full keel boats in seaway are the way to comfortably my draft is only 4'6" also, just my opinion and have sailed bay fields in heavy weather, they handle it fine.
08-06-2010 08:57 AM
canadianseamonkey The broker will probably tell you that you are insulting the seller, but screw him. It's your money and the seller will counter-offer if he wants to sell it. In this economy, low balling will get you everywhere. Only suckers pay full price. You da man!!!
08-05-2010 02:22 PM
rockDAWG Thanks CSMonkey for the reminder. I will be sensible in my purchase.

Like those Bayfields, I would offer them 1/2 of what they want. You may be surprised. Good luck!
I am sure you are serious, but I worry if I will totally become a moron in front of the broker and outlawed by the all brokers in the areas.
08-05-2010 12:55 PM
canadianseamonkey Rockdawg, don't get caught up in the "newer is better" perception. Old boats are old boats and have proven themselves as compared to new boats. Time will only tell with them, but I'm not a believer in the new thin hulls and lighter displacements.

You say you have $150-300k to spend. That is more than plenty. Many bargains available in the USA right now. Like those Bayfields, I would offer them 1/2 of what they want. You may be suprised. Good luck!
08-05-2010 10:54 AM
rockDAWG Hahah... your comments and disagreement are welcome here; that is how I learn most of the time.

Without given you an impression of being lazy and not wanting to do my homework, can you give me a few examples of boats that have L/D ratio of less than 200 and SA/D of above 20?

Bear in mind the newer design boats are newer with a price tag of 350K and up. I am not sure if I can justify to the Boss of such purchase. My ideal comfort range will be 150 to 300K including the needed upgrades. The number can be moved up if it is justified and the future economic climate is improving
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