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|05-18-2007 10:39 PM|
You couldn't keep me from going!!!
Check out: Cruises - Windjammer Barefoot Cruises
Friends of mine went and had a blast.
I think it's the perfect happy medium.
|05-18-2007 07:49 PM|
BVI tour Google Earth
We just made a tour with Google Earth which may assist:
Here is URL: BVI Google Earth Itinerary
Google Earth is a new discovery - the new way to look at itineraries perhaps, we'll be doing some more for other locations soon!
|05-16-2007 12:38 PM|
It can be a great vacation with the right people
4 years ago I did the BVI bareboat charter with two couples and four kids. My kids were 8 and 10 at the time. While they enjoy sailing, they are not avid sailors, yet they still consider it their favorite vacation of all time (even better than Disney World and much more fun than the one cruise we did take). We are planning on doing it again this winter.
I agree showing pictures is a great place to start. Maybe you can even find some where they show the cattle (passengers) lining up to go on excursions off the the cruise ship.
Be warned, however, that many consider such an excursion as camping on water. So, if you are dealing with high maintenance individuals you could hear some griping. Also, make sure you really get along with the people your going with because you'll be together just about the time.
Finally, unless the adults really dislike cooking while on vacation, I would pass on the cook as well. Some days you'll find restaurants to eat at, and other times you'll just want to take sandwiches onto an isolated beach.
|05-16-2007 11:45 AM|
Pictures are worth a thousand words
A lot of good suggestions already so I won't reiterate them. One addition would be to show them what the BVIs look like by using a simple Google Image search. Once they see the beauty of the BVIs it could be hard to resist. Here's what I would show them:
|05-13-2007 08:58 PM|
How to talk wife and friends . . .
Realistically you have two tasks: getting wife to go on the first charter, and secondly making it so pleasant she will want to go on subsequent sailing vacations.
A previous respondant noted that it is impossible to talk someone into doing something they really don't want to do. He is correct. Your task then is to find out what wife likes to do, and then build the charter trip around wifes desires. In the BVI there are lots of things to do, so make an inventory of what wife wants, and build the trip around her desires: She hates to make the bed in the morning - most cooks will make bunks up in the morning. She hates to cook - hire a cook. She likes to snorkle - buy the guidebook to dive spots in the Virgin Islands, and start highlighting pages. She likes to dine out - get a guidebook, and start highlighting restaurants, (what kind - Italian, barbeque, continental, seafood, etc) and there are lots of great ones down there. She likes to shop - you are in trouble, may have to go over the the USVI. Scuba dive, windsurf, historical sites, etc. If you try and sell sailing, you will lose. If you cater to your wifes desires, you may win.
A cook is probably not worth the extra money. Spend that money provisioning the boat with really great treats. $120.day will buy a lot of Brie, foie, etc.
Your second task is to make the trip so pleasant wife will want to go back again. A captain will really help with this. He will relieve you of responsibility, so there is no screaming at the foredeck to lower the anchor, etc. He will know where the spots your wife will enjoy are - and you can't figure that out from the guide books.
The trip down to the BVI is long. Experienced sailors can do it in one day. Don't. There is a motel in the airport terminal in San Juan (Best Western) which is an acceptable place to stop on the way down. That means you get the first flight out the next morning, get into the BVI late morning, and are out of the harbor by noon. The alternatives are to do a sleep aboard the first night (it will be hot - don't do it), or a room in the BVI (will be inconvenient)
I would insist on being able to communicate with the captain you hire before the trip down there. If the charter base won't set that up, go elsewhere. Tell the captain that you are the boss, and your first order to him is to make your wife happy. You might even ask for a lady skipper.
This is getting too long. I should be happy to expand if you will email me. firstname.lastname@example.org
It is a lot of work to figure out what one's loved one wants to do, and then accomodate to it, instead of trying to fit her into your mould, but the effort may pay off. In lots of ways.
|05-08-2007 06:01 PM|
Agree with advice above, a crewed catamaran would definitely be the way to go. Other things you might mention about BVI charters:
|05-07-2007 06:57 PM|
i have 2 ideas for you.
First, take them on a day sail.
Second, order 2 copies of the Cruising guide for BVIs. Once they get a hold of it, they will find lots of great things to do.
Oh also, the first time we went to the BVIs, I let my wife plan the entire route. She loved the idea, and it made her feel like a big part of it.
Sometime before the trip, get your wife(first mate I assume) on the wheel and go over hand signals. Yelling at your wife in a mooring field is strictly prohibited LOL.
Oh, get a copy of the video from the charter company.
|04-27-2007 03:24 PM|
Take baby steps first
If I were in your shoes, I would consider doing something on one of the Windjammers in Maine and let someone else be repossible for all the details the first time. For details check out Maine Coast Windjammer Sailing Vacations - Maine Windjammer Association . My wife and I have not done this yet but are considering it. There are a number of large boats but there is actually one I believe that is limited to only 8 or 10 "passengers".
After Maine, check-out chartering on Lake Champlain. This is a great place for newcomers, lots of water, good winds in summer, refreshing water, lots of fun anchorages, and best of all no tides to worry about. A lot easier than Charleston, SC, which is where we learned and got our certifications. One of my seasoned New England sailing friends pointed out, however, that if you do run aground in a lake, you can't wait for the tide to float you off. Finding a charter boat on the lake can be difficult, but if you have trouble let me know and I can point you in the right direction.
|04-27-2007 12:58 PM|
Originally Posted by Neises
|04-27-2007 12:49 PM|
|h2ohouse||I completely agree, which is why I'm getting ASA 101/103 currently and planning on ASA 104 on a 46' monohull around Catalina island in October.|
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