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Topic Review (Newest First)
07-09-2007 02:37 PM
S16segler
New Rudder

My son built my new rudder to drawings supplied by the S16 association so it should be legal. The locking mechanism is now a spring clip through a hole in a pintle below a gudgeon. We didn't put the optional bevel on the rudder edges because I'm not expecting to do any racing and the necessary machine wasn't available at the time. We goofed on the tiller a little. It wasn't included in the drawings and we got it too long. I scaled it at 48 inches from blowing up a sketch on the S16 web site. That seemed a little long but I thought it would be easier to shorten than to lengthen. Then my son made the "tiller" 48 inches long not including the grip on the end of it. It will have to be shortened. He also tried something different with the tiller extension. The extension slides inside the tiller and has a U-joint to allow it to pivot. The latching mechanism for releasing it from the stowed position and then locking it in place extended works but is too awkward as it is and will have to be refined. If that gets to be too much trouble, I'll just go back to putting the extension on top of the tiller on a swivel like it was originally. I haven't sailed it yet as summer has set in. It is just too hot during the day here for me to enjoy lake activity. I tried to attach photos but I don't see them here.
06-01-2007 09:35 PM
S16segler Received rudder and headboard drawings from the S16 association today. Got sufficient support that I decided it was worthwhile to join. It just took awhile.
05-10-2007 11:29 PM
GotTheNotion S16,

With ya on that!! Had to give paceship all personal info, as well as, make, model, year, and HIN # for their "archives". Still no responses from them either. Would've never even signed up...

GTN
05-10-2007 09:23 PM
S16segler
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Originally Posted by USCGRET1990
What have you found out so far? Can't be that hard to make one out of aluminum plate or just plywood. Of course, next time have the pintles drilled for a locking pin.
I've put together a design that will work but am waiting to see if I can get some "official" dimensions. If I don't get them soon, I'll post what I've come up with for critique. The association hasn't answered my email from a week ago. I'm not a member but would join if I saw a benefit. If they wont answer emails, I don't see a benefit.
05-09-2007 11:03 PM
sailingdog Anytime GTN...
05-09-2007 11:00 PM
GotTheNotion
You Guys Are Great!!!

You know, I am missing a couple pieces of my rub rail from my P-23.
You all know I'm a newbie.
So I go on-line to paceship.org, sign up and post a thread there asking if any enthusiast may have some pieces of light teak railing that I could aquire. Do you know that not one guy has even responded to that thread?!!! It's been 3 days.

I can't believe how wonderful(and helpful) you guys are here on this site.


KUDOS!!

GTN
05-09-2007 07:20 PM
USCGRET1990 What have you found out so far? Can't be that hard to make one out of aluminum plate or just plywood. Of course, next time have the pintles drilled for a locking pin.
05-09-2007 06:36 PM
michaelgb
Rudders and center boards

I have a 13.5 flying junior which has been idle for some years, the center board fell out when she turtled. Since there are not a lot of places in Colorado to sail my 22 ft Catalina, I thought to go back to day sailing until I found a place for my Catalina. The rudder and center board needed to
be replaced, and I was given the number of IdaSailor Marine, and they were
able to replace rudder, tiller and centerboard at a reasonable price.

You might want to contact them. sailboats@idasailor.com - 1 866 400 2204.
There service and workmanship were well worth the price to me.
05-07-2007 03:06 PM
S16segler
Quote:
Originally Posted by S16newbie
Hi,
I am MORTIFIED. I held the rubber washer that fell out of the rudder lock in my hand and thought, "this needs replacing, I can do that next weekend" and launched the boat.

Forty-five minutes (and a VERY COLD dousing of Michigan lake water later, I also found myself rudderless.
Thanks!
Amy
Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Sounds like your boat also turned turtle. Is there no way of preventing that with an S16?
05-07-2007 03:00 PM
S16segler Here is the email response that I got from the fellow who builds new S16s. The cost of a new rudder is close to $700. I will build a new rudder but I'm not in any hurry. Maybe you could borrow one for when your dad is there.


Quote "The complete assembly can get expensive.....Here are prices from last year.

Rudder head $125
pintals (2) $160
Machined rudder $225
Tiller $90
Tiller extension $60-90

Options: Can you hire a diver to locate the rudder assembly for you?

I may try and get a set of rudder drawings on the S16 web site for those that want to fabricate their own. FYI….I use Ronstand on the tiller extension and a good stick of oak for the tillers. Everything else is custom made including the Pintals. The rudder material is marine grade wood and the Tiller is T6066T6 aluminum material ľ” .
Might be cheaper buying a complete boat....some are on sale at S16.org for as little as $1,000, for this you get the boat, sails, trailer, rudder assembly, and mast." End Quote

Maybe you could borrow one for when your dad is there
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