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06-27-2007 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by JimsCAL
As someone who has cruised on Long Island Sound for 30 years, I don't agree with your generalization about zero wind and brutally hot and humid for the entire summer. I recall many days of brisk breezes and wearing jackets to stay warm, especially on the eastern end in July when the ocean temps are still in the low 60s. The sea breeze that builds around noon on the South Shore does take a few hours to make to the Sound, but 10-15 knot afternoon SW breezes are pretty much the norm on the Sound. Long Island Sound is not Chesapeake Bay.
I agree here - yes there are some days where the winds are light - but there are plenty of good days where you have a good S/SW wind.

Also, lots more places to stop and visit.

06-27-2007 03:00 PM
sailor25b I just returned from the trip, and it was great. Sailed down the East River, past Manhattan to Sheepshead Bay YC in Brooklyn. Very friendly people there.
Next day, we sailed all the way to Shinnecock inlet (over 70 mi) and then onto Montauk, where we ate at Gosmans Dock (seafood doesn't get fresher), before cruising to Block I to watch the scene during BI Race Week. The sail was easier than I feared, and the Shinnecock inlet wasn't a problem, though tricky to navigate w/o GPS at night in the narrow channel once inside. Block I was great, and the return cruise through The Race into LI Sound was uneventful (in a good way!). Thankfully, we had steady breezes throughout the week. That made all the difference, or the trip would have taken much longer.
Now that I have the experience under my belt, I'd do it again without hesitation tomorrow (if I could get off from work for another week!)
06-27-2007 02:04 PM
hellosailor You might find 7' of water in some parts of the GSB but keeping you eye on the charts and tide heights will be crucial.
06-27-2007 01:14 PM
gc1111 7 ft. draft would be tricky and very restrictive. A locally knowlegable sailor could manage, but I think a stranger would get lots of practice in ungrounding. A lot of the Great South Bay is 8-10 ft. deep. But a lot is less. Much depends on where you want to go. If you are headed for one of the FI communities between Fire Island Inlet and Point o'Woods you might well be able to make it. Make sure your towing insurance is adequate!
06-27-2007 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by nk235
I actually keep my boat in the Great South Bay and am also planning on doing a trip to Block Island probably in August. If your coming from Brooklyn and want to break up the trip I would enter the bay in Fire Island Inlet which is the Western most part of the bay and then you have about a 15 mile stretch where there are plenty of places to stay for the night either on Long Island's south shore or even if you anchor up by Fire Island where there are a couple real nice outdoor restaurant and bars that are only accesible by boat / ferry. Then the next day you could continue heading east throughtout the other side of the bay and exit via Moriches inlet. But like others have said these inlets can get pretty nast especially when wind and tide are oppossing eachother. If it is a nice calm day you should have no problem but if its blowing or rough out maybe just stay off shore and continue straight out to Block. If you do head into the bay send me a PM and I will give you a list of places to go and how to get there. Have fun though on your trip!
I have a quession about the opposite trip. I now live in the Newport, RI area and have family on Fire Island. I have always had the impression that the Great South Bay is simply too shallow for sailboats. My boat has nearly a seven foot draft. I am out of luck, right?
06-24-2007 11:51 AM
JimsCAL kptmorgan04 I am guessing you are a USMMA graduate. I am a graduate of the Class of 1968 and just retired from there after 28 years on the faculty. Don't let the fear of light winds scare you away from some of the best cruising territory in the Northeast. Acta non Verba!
06-23-2007 12:46 PM
hellosailor I'm not sure how far off you'd stay for best progress, there's westbound current along the shore further out than you might think, so it is a matter of staying outside the shore currents (more than a mile, perhaps 2-3?) and staying inshore from any commercial traffic, then picking a post where the wind is strong and the swells gentle. In the ALIR races, where the winers don't really want to share nav secrets, it seems to be 3-10 miles out is the sweet range. that will vary of course, you'll see fish traps, ocean buoys, curves to stay out clear of...plenty of room for personal choice.

Matter of fact if you come up in the last weekend of July, you can "escort" the ALIR race fleet.
06-23-2007 10:22 AM
camaraderie Do an overnighter and just come around Montauk for your anchorage in sheltered water with no inlets to worry about.
06-23-2007 07:58 AM
gc1111 Transiting the South Shore of LI I generally just follow a 40 ft. depth contour. The bottom is very regular and even. I think the puts me about a half to one mile off the beach, but I have never measured it.
If you are from Cape May, you are probably familiar with running inlets. But only the Shinnecock Bay inlet is "improved" like Cape May inlet. And do some trip planning. Unless you have an unusually fast sail boat, you cannot make the run in one day. So you either go overnight or come into an inlet for the night.
06-23-2007 05:48 AM
kptmorgan04 hmmmm, I was planning on doing this trip in late july and was oringally thinking go through the Long Island Sound, for scenery, shelter, possible stop by my old college, etc.
Maybe I will check the weather/wind forcasts before doing so and choose either through the sound or south of the sound the morning of the sail. I do remember many windless days at sailing practice at Kings Point in July/August, and those started at 4.... but there were also some days with good breeze, guess the weather forcast will pick it for me.
How far off Long Island do you typically need to stay if you go south of the island?
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