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06-08-2009 04:23 PM
cnc33voodoo I will get dr.emitt brown to time port that message for you right away.
06-06-2009 09:31 PM
GaryHLucas Congratulations are in order, at least until you come to your senses!

An important thing to realize here. You bought her for $2000, but all the parts she will need are priced for the $60,000? boat she would be at today's prices. I paid $6500 for my 1984 Etap 26, and despite a huge effort to stay out of boat stores I have spent at least $15,000 already.

Another issue, was this a one owner boat? One owner boats I am finding are bad news. Instead of being used boats, they are often used up boats. All the stuff you think you can just fix wind up being total replacements.

Good luck,

Gary H. Lucas
06-06-2009 07:10 PM
sailingdog Please start your own thread on this issue... instead of hijacking this one, which is about a different boat entirely. I'd highly recommend you read this POST to help you get the most out of sailnet.
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Do you how to move a sailboat which is on a cradle and get the both up on a flatbed trailer and then how to get them off. Any pictures available would be helpful. The sailboat is a 25' Bristol, full keel 6,000 lbs.
06-06-2009 05:30 PM
musicmanontheseas
Hoe to move a sailboat onb a cradle

Do you how to move a sailboat which is on a cradle and get the both up on a flatbed trailer and then how to get them off. Any pictures available would be helpful. The sailboat is a 25' Bristol, full keel 6,000 lbs.
07-02-2007 12:20 AM
7tiger7 The spreaders are not wood, they are aluminum (not sure if they were replaced, or are original) - but their brackets are cracked (broken) so I need new ones. Also, I think I will sink new stainless keel-bolts, to help support the original (rusty) bolts.
I think the tank cannot be removed easily, but I might just pump it out and clean it as best I can- I am wondering how the heck I will fiberglass it into place though.
I will replace the pulpit eventually - and add a 2-lifeline pulpit, in place of the ingle life lines there now.
Lots of work to do - will keep you posted.
Phillip
07-01-2007 04:44 PM
sailhog The spreaders themselves on the older Catalina 27s and 30s were made of wood, and definitely need to be replaced. I've seen a lot of older Catalinas lately, and a fair number of them have the originals. The aluminum replacement is something like $350. Check the chainplates while you're at it. I know that up until 1978 the chainplates on the 30s had to be retrofitted.
07-01-2007 02:48 PM
lsusailing
Just bought my first boat! Catalina 27 diesel

Suggestion only. If the fuel tank is loose and you think it is easy to remove, remove it and clean it out. This is an old boat so you do not know what is inside the tank. You will probably find the fuel gauge system gunked up and gump at the bottom of the tank. If so, clean it out. Put a small chain in and pour a little diesel or kerosene and keep on moving it around and draining until it is clean, reinstall. This is the best thing you can do, along with changing the fuel filters. This will make sure that you boat "will go"

$2k is fine, makes up for any issues you have.....

LSU Sailing
s/v Daphne
07-01-2007 02:34 PM
SEMIJim
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Originally Posted by 7tiger7
Hi Jim -
thanks for the info.
You're quite welcome.

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Originally Posted by 7tiger7
I did look at that compression "block" in the bilge, and it did look soft. it looks like the epoxy that covered it had cracked away, allowing bilge water to soak the wood.
If anyone has any more info on how to fix this - please let me know.
I saw a discussion on this, somewhere, but apparently I didn't save the URL. Sorry. You might check Catalina Owners.com for owners sailing production sailboats or International Catalina 27/270 Association.

If I recall correctly: There aren't many options. If the wood is not beyond rescue, you could try letting it dry out, which might take quite a bit of time if it's really badly soaked, and try the epoxy injection fix. Then seal it up. Otherwise the only other fix, I believe, is to remove the compression post (which wasn't difficult, as I recall), take up a bit of the cabin's sole, and remove and replace the compression block.

Sounds like a PITA. And perhaps it will be. But make no mistake: Fixing this is something that has to be done. All of the mast's downward force is applied to that block of wood.

Jim
07-01-2007 01:50 PM
7tiger7 Hi Jim -
thanks for the info.
I did look at that compression "block" in the bilge, and it did look soft. it looks like the epoxy that covered it had cracked away, allowing bilge water to soak the wood.
If anyone has any more info on how to fix this - please let me know.
I still think the boat was a decent price - $2,000. The sails looked brand new, the interior was in good condition, and I couldn't see any water marks on the inside of the boat. And its a diesel.

Phillip
07-01-2007 09:58 AM
SEMIJim Oh, and no need to replace the VHF antenna if there's nothing wrong with the one that's there, in my opinion. If you do feel the need, you might wish to consider transom-mounting a somewhat larger, high-performance fiberglass antenna, instead. The owner of the boat we're buying did that. When I questioned it, he replied "Well, my thinking was if the antenna's on the mast, and the mast comes down..." "Oh," I repied, "I'd never considered that."

OTOH: A transom-mounted antenna, no matter how high-performance, may not have the range of that tiny little whip antenna you commonly see atop masts. (For VHF range, line-of-sight is king.) At least when the mast is up

Jim
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