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07-03-2007 07:30 PM
BarryL
My Nav Station

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithril
Cupholder... ok, but back to the subject at hand...

What do you have (Electronics, Controls, Instruments, etc) at your Nav Station camaraderie, Barry Lenoble (BarryL), Kathleen (SchoonerMISTRESS), or hellosailor? Or what would you have there if you could?
Hello,

My boat is a 1986 O'day 35. I am the 4th owner. The second owner was a husband and wife who lived in the Boston area. They sailed down to the caribbean and lived aboard for 2 years. They returned and sold the boat to a couple who owned her for 7 years or so until I bought her.

When I bought the boat it had a LORAN system mounted on a swing out arm that could be visible from the cockpit of the nav station, and a VHF radio usable from the nav station (but not visible from there).

I removed the LORAN (it was not operational) and installed a Lowrance GPS chartplotter / SONAR unit, and I also installed a DSC VHF. The GPS and VHF are connected via NMEA and the VHF will display speed, course, and LAT / LONG.

The nav station on the O'day is good sized. The seat is the end of the quarter berth. There is a large table top that flips up. I keep charts and other goodies in there. I have dividers, parallel lines, and other assorted things there. Besides the VHF there are no electronics.

This past week we spent on the boat for vacation. We sailed from Mt. Sinai NY to Montauk Point NY (about 55 nm), from Montauk to Greenport, and from Greenport home. During parts of the trip I had a laptop at the nav station open and running Seaclear.

To be honest, when we were underway I never did anything at the nav station. I was in the cockpit the majority of the time. On the trip home (which took 10 hours) my wife took over for an hour, so I went below and rested. When we were in port I did plan one trip at the nav station, otherwise I never used it.

Barry
07-03-2007 06:00 PM
GySgt
CAr PC

[QUOTE=wind_magic]Here are some of the things I want in my next nav station.


7) Inside I'd like one of those ultra low power micro-atx board computers that doesn't need a fan, the kind that the kids are putting into their automobiles now, running linux on a solid state drive. Want that hooked to the KVM.

QUOTE]

G-NET Car PC - Vehicle Mount Computers - Vehicle PC - Nav TV Video Modules For OEM GPS Navigation Systems is a good place to startlooking for mobile "car" PCs. Being a geek and all
07-03-2007 05:42 PM
hellosailor Mithril-
What anyone else has at the nav doesn't matter so much. By definition it should be a place where navigation can be done, with whatever tools you will have and in whatever manner you plan to navigate. Ideally that would be a tilted chart "table" large enough for the charts or chart books you prefer to use, facing forward (for comfort) or aft (to communicate to the helm) with an attached swivel seat and restraining belt to make sure you remain attached in rough wx. In practical terms...many boats just don't have the space for that and the nav station typically is at the head of the quarterberth.

Today I'd want space for a laptop computer, or an installed flat screen and keyboard w/mouse, since that's often a primary system--if you have it on board. That might mean more flat space (if you have it) or bulkhead space.

For sure the GPS should be visible to the navigator, but if you are often shorthanded and have only one GPS, you might prefer to put that on a swivel arm that can be moved to let it be seen from the helm.

Also whatever radios you have--mounted into the bulkhead. And some small rack for traditional tools, if you are using them, along with a space for binocs, sextant, or whatever other tools your nav may be using.

Radar? Some have it, many don't.

You can see where's there's an awful lot that just depends on what you've got and what you plan to install!

Traditionally the whole switch panel for all breakers and the batteries will be at the nav as well, but if the electrics are stable, I'm not concerned with having them at the nav station, I'd prefer to see them as sheltered from spray and bumps as possible, That may mean backed under the companionway (I don't like that but on some boats, that's where they've been run) or against the bulkhead to the lazarettes, simply because the wiring has to come out the other side.

It's more like "make a list of everything you'd use while at the nav, everything electrical or navigational" and then trim the list down to what you have room for, and plan to carry onboard. Including room for "the rest" of the charts, the pilot books, anything similar your naviguesser might be held responsible for. Including a flashlight or two--because the nav often may need one of them, too.
07-03-2007 05:28 PM
SchoonerMISTRESS Our nav station has the following:
Schatz Royal Mariner clock
Pencil sharpener
Horizon Eclipse + VHF
Stereo
110 outlet
ProSine 2.0 display/inverter/charger
2 DC amp meters (1 for solar intake and 1 for wind generator intake)
5 bilge pumps with alarms
two rows of 12 V DC switches
1 row 120 volt ac switches
one switch that handles lights (anchor, running, etc.)
Windlass switch
Central AC/heat controller
and yes the Solar Boost Blue Sky Controller
There is a large table which lifts up and stores many charts.
A humidor for the Captains cigars
and both LED and regular lights
In a drawer all all the tools needed for navigation with the exception of a sextant which we have not gotten to replace yet. There is a hand held GPS also.
No cup holder :0)
On the wish list is the SSB. A spot has been held in reserve for it.

In the cockpit
Raymarine Deptsounder
Furuno GPS and Radar
another VHS
and the engine display

While I have a laptop and have Ocean Navigator on it, we have yet to have a chance to use it and still would rather have paper charts. The laptop is held in place by one of those RAM mounts I was talking about.

Kathleen
aboard
Schooner MISTRESS
07-03-2007 05:16 PM
Mithril Thanks Kathleen for the info on the laptop mount. Previously I was just planning on using a non slip mat on top of the Nav table, but after reading some threads on the subject, it would have been a bad idea.
07-03-2007 05:08 PM
Mithril Cupholder... ok, but back to the subject at hand...

What do you have (Electronics, Controls, Instruments, etc) at your Nav Station camaraderie, Barry Lenoble (BarryL), Kathleen (SchoonerMISTRESS), or hellosailor? Or what would you have there if you could?
07-03-2007 04:46 PM
hellosailor Kathleen-
Actually, not kidding. You never know when or what or how long someone will be at the nav station but that easily could be first thing in the AM while trying to wake up and make fresh coffee for the oncoming watch. Or nursing a cup on night watch.
I learned from my desk at home, that if you have a place for coffee where it is physically unable to spill "up" to the papers and computer...you just can't spill it on stuff, so you can enjoy it. I've been in corporate shops where there's a "no food no drink at the desks" policy--to protect work and machines--but also long rush jobs that require the policy to be bent, that there are ways to just make sure problems can't happen.

The plethora of cup holders in new cars is a bit ludicrous, but having ONE cup holder.......not so bad. Heck, I even added a chart pocket on the chest of my foulie bibs so I could stow charts without having to cram 'em up. And then found out it made a perfect place to keep a can of club soda on hot days. (Can't stain, just cleans the foulies if it spills.)
07-03-2007 02:56 PM
SchoonerMISTRESS Hey Hello Sailor,
You probably were just kidding with the cup holder thing but I have to tell you it really sounds like a good idea. We spend so much of our time trying to give her (our boats) all the best we can, then when we are underway we realize we forgot about our comfort. Skip and I keep kicking ourselves we did not think of building into the cockpit a small cooler for cold drinks which would be easily accessible by the helmsman. Sounds trivial, but when you are the one at the helm it sure would be nice to easily grab a cool drink for yourself. I bet having something for drinks at the nav station really wouldn't be a bad idea. Heck, you know you will be sitting there just for a moment when all of a sudden that drink you have spills all over the chart you are looking at. So I take your kidding with some serious thought. For all the work and effort we give our boats, some small creature comforts for us might not be such a bad idea.
Kathleen
aboard
Schooner MISTRESS
07-03-2007 02:11 PM
Lurch
Cupholders

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor
What, no cupholders?

What, didn't your computer come with one of those handy little cup holders that slides out when you push the button?
07-03-2007 11:57 AM
hellosailor What, no cupholders?

At least one, for coffee or whatever, within reach but away from anything it can spill or splosh into.
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