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08-14-2007 06:30 PM
pirateofcapeann [quote=sailingdog;179343]IMHO, you don't generally need to tie in the reefing points unless you're going to be reefed for an extended period of time. If you're just reefing for a brief summer thunderstorm, I wouldn't bother tieing off all the reef points.quote]

Sorry. I have to disagree. Make those points any time you tuck a reef! Even a short 50 knot blow will flog that bunt and shake the hell out of the rigging! Also, those little summer squalls can dump a hell of a lot of water and fill that pocket amazingly efficiently, resulting in a lot of excessive strain on the rig and can even greatly diminish the stability of the boat!fficeffice" />>>
08-14-2007 05:20 AM
nightowle Thanks, Bardo. I agree: the information here is invaluable. I'll check out the articles.
08-13-2007 10:22 PM
Bardo Nightowl,

The articles that I referenced are on Sailnet, and I found them very informative. Although, as I said, I love the varied and highly experienced input that I get from our shipmates on the forum. Search on the articles section to view them.

Freeman
08-13-2007 06:36 PM
tenuki keep your reefing line/s separate from the reef sail ties. Usually the 'ties' are sewn into the sail. Their purpose is to keep the loose sail at the bottom after you reef from flogging. They will rip your sail out if you use them for anything else.

The reefing lines run through the large gromets at both the tack and the clew points of the reefed sail. In both cases you usually tie one end of the line through a padeye using a stopper knot, thread it up through the reef point, then down to the other side where it is cleated off. A lot of times for smaller 'jiffy reefed' boats there is a block near the end of the boom that leads it to a cleat midway on the boom. At the mast it is common to have both the padeye and the cleat on the mast so that there are forces forward to keep the tack close to the mast.

Here's a pic from the R20 tech manual that describes what I'm talking about.

08-13-2007 06:31 PM
nightowle
Bardo....Any online articles?

if you found any online articles about reefing; please post the links if you can. I'd be very interested.

Thanks.
08-13-2007 06:18 PM
Bardo My main is loose footed, So I won't have to secure the sail to the boom. I read the articles which describe the process as well, but after I posted (as usual). Its so much more interesting to hear all the different approaches from the salty dawgs. Thanks!
08-13-2007 06:02 PM
phallo153
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Originally Posted by pirateofcapeann View Post
Just some things to keep in mind: The reef points are only meant to secure bunt of the sail from flogging about when the reef is tucked in. Don’t try to shape the sail with the points! The points won’t handle the strain and the sail will become stretched out and possibly tear. Also, if possible, don’t make the points around the boom. Make them around the foot of the sail only. If your sail uses a boltrope that slides into the boom track, you won’t be able to avoid this.
Very important advice that I learned the hard way. I tore the sail at a tie point, although it wasn't loose-footed and I had to go around the boom. The sail may have torn anyway since it was pretty worn and unrepairable; new loose-footed main is on the way.

For the original poster - my original main had two tie points, with a foot or so of 3/8" line knotted on each side to keep it in place.
08-13-2007 05:01 PM
sailingdog Also, make sure you untie any of the reefing point tie lines before trying to shake out a reef...or you're probably going to tear the sail.

IMHO, you don't generally need to tie in the reefing points unless you're going to be reefed for an extended period of time. If you're just reefing for a brief summer thunderstorm, I wouldn't bother tieing off all the reef points.

I would recommend using a single line for each point, rather than the one long continuous line, since it will generally be easier and faster to tie them off with individual lines. A short piece, 4-6' of 1/4" line (or a bit longer depending on the size of the sail, boom and whether you have a boltrope foot on the mainsail) passed through the reefing point, with a stopper knot tied on either side of the mid-point to hold it in place would do the trick nicely.
08-13-2007 04:27 PM
pirateofcapeann Just some things to keep in mind: The reef points are only meant to secure bunt of the sail from flogging about when the reef is tucked in. Donít try to shape the sail with the points! The points wonít handle the strain and the sail will become stretched out and possibly tear. Also, if possible, donít make the points around the boom. Make them around the foot of the sail only. If your sail uses a boltrope that slides into the boom track, you wonít be able to avoid this.
08-13-2007 03:31 PM
Bardo Thats right. your illustration and explanations make it very clear. I will set that rig up soonest. Thanks!
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