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09-01-2014 02:00 PM
MedSailor
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
On any boat with more than one head, at least one of them should be a Lavac...

If I had an 'Admiral' who insisted on 2 heads, I'd say "Fine, as long as you agree to maintain one of them... Choose whichever one you want to use and maintain, and I'll take the other, in which I'll install a Lavac..."

Only a bucket requires less maintenance... And, that might actually depend on the type of bucket...

:-)
This may be why there is no admiral.... Just sayin'.

MedSailor
08-31-2014 05:39 PM
white74
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

H28 H-28 (HERRESHOFF) sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
twentyeightfeet
he seems to do okay
08-31-2014 03:55 PM
christian.hess
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

lavac is the best head by far...simplicity rules...lavac is it

basically its a a head with a big gasket and you use a manual bilge pump to create vaccum

it never failed in 4 years of constant use, and was 20 years old or so when we started using it...

zero maintenance in those 4 years and one of us really abused it if you know what I mean! jajaja

peace
08-31-2014 01:10 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

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Originally Posted by Group9 View Post
I though it was neat having two heads at first. But, it really means twice the head maintenance, which is really the worst job on the boat.
On any boat with more than one head, at least one of them should be a Lavac...

If I had an 'Admiral' who insisted on 2 heads, I'd say "Fine, as long as you agree to maintain one of them... Choose whichever one you want to use and maintain, and I'll take the other, in which I'll install a Lavac..."

Only a bucket requires less maintenance... And, that might actually depend on the type of bucket...

:-)
08-31-2014 11:12 AM
mad_machine
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

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Originally Posted by Marcaiche View Post
Art,

The Sea Sprite was on my list of three 23-footers I had in mind for a particular voyage, but I ended up with the Electra. Of course a nearly-free Ariel showed up a month later but I (barely) managed to avoid falling into the boat-collector, three-footitis trap, with some misgivings.

What the heck, everything that came off the drawing-board of Alberg suits me, the look, the sailing qualities, the seaworthiness... If you like a "traditional" boat that still performs within reason and don't mind expending elbow-grease, they're out there for reasonable cash if you search...

Mine has needed a lot of elbow grease.. but to be honest, I am something of a perfectionist. Right now I am in the middle or rebuilding the keel after finding my sprite had spent time on the bottom with a badly damaged stern and keel area
08-30-2014 11:49 PM
Marcaiche
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

Art,

The Sea Sprite was on my list of three 23-footers I had in mind for a particular voyage, but I ended up with the Electra. Of course a nearly-free Ariel showed up a month later but I (barely) managed to avoid falling into the boat-collector, three-footitis trap, with some misgivings.

What the heck, everything that came off the drawing-board of Alberg suits me, the look, the sailing qualities, the seaworthiness... If you like a "traditional" boat that still performs within reason and don't mind expending elbow-grease, they're out there for reasonable cash if you search...
08-30-2014 12:48 PM
christian.hess
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

triton!
08-30-2014 12:36 PM
mad_machine
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

I bought my Sea Sprite 23 with the intention on selling her in a year or two. I wanted to relearn how to sail a bigger heavier boat than my old 14' dinghy. She has taught me a lot so far.. and she has not even touched the water since I bought her two years ago.

As the forever single guy.. I want something in the 28 to 30 foot range. I keep think Alberg 30, Cape Dory 30, Westsail 28, or Liberty 28.
08-30-2014 10:00 AM
smurphny
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

When considering the size of the boat I decided to start to renovate, a lot of factors came into play. I guess my first parameter was seaworthiness, followed by cost to fix up and cost of future maintenance. I'm also a big fan of simplicity and wanted to maintain the feel of a sailboat, not a floating collection of gadgets and canvas. The old, narrow configuration of my A35 seems like about the minimum amount of space to be somewhat comfortable even for one person. Two is possible with a bit of rearranging.

The amount of gear that needs to be stowed below for long term cruising fills every available nook and cranny, including both sides of the v-berth and the one main cabin bunk I don't use. I keep the decks clear, not cluttered with stuff to trip over or worry about when it gets snotty. So it all goes below. The liferaft comes up when offshore.

For short term cruising it would be entirely different but I take off for months at a time and need to be prepared for anything that might happen. That supports the idea above that it all depends on how you plan to use the boat. For long term cruising, I don't know how you would fit RIB, bike, liferaft, sails, food, extra water, kayak, clothes, tools, sewing machine, many replacement parts, extra anchors, fiberglass supplies, paints, extra lines of many sorts, blocks, electronics, wetsuits, extra fuel, adequate fenders and fender boards, stove fuel, books, emergency signaling kit, sea anchor, drogue, ditch bag, chain and fittings, sewing kit, sailcloth, etc. in anything much smaller than 35'.
08-30-2014 09:27 AM
JoeLena
Re: Smallest boat you can live with

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Originally Posted by Waltthesalt View Post
I wanted standing headroom,...
This was it for us as well, no fun stooping all the time, too old for that. Also an inboard. The Catalina 27 was about the smallest boat around here with both items.
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