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11-12-2014 11:01 PM
Cruiser6575
Re: ASA vs. US Sailing

Actually, Saildog, it is now seven years later still and that 2007 post was a very useful conclusion to the 2002 posts.
06-01-2012 04:16 PM
rgscpat
Re: ASA vs. US Sailing

Even the school managers seem to admit that it takes more than a few days of training to truly create a sailor. Practice, practice can get you to more than just Carnegie Hall. Time on the water is a wonderful thing, though even that gets better with the occasional review and critique.
06-01-2012 07:41 AM
heenakapoor
Re: ASA vs. US Sailing

ASA will do much more than simply show you the basics, a affiliated schools can teach you everything you need to be a skilled and experienced sailor, including helping you earn your sailing certification. Through the combination of nonprofit organizations that have expanded affordable access to sailing resources and ASA's varied catalog of sailing classes, sailing is accessible to virtually everyone.
04-17-2012 01:01 PM
Scof
Re: ASA vs. US Sailing

Wow, great information from all. I enjoyed the walk through the last ten years of opinions. I'm looking to get my instructor certifications and knowing that ASA has more schools and are oriented on cruising helps.

Does anyone know if dogs tend to get seasick when doing any significant sailing or are they better left at the dock (to yip at sailors as they make their approaches and latent postings)? I understand now that they punch like girls.
09-19-2011 07:40 PM
cnihill
Sailing Schools

I own a sailing school, an ASA school. Having been in the business (9 years)of a sailing school and bare boat charters the most important part is practicing the skills you have learned after the class is over. Look for a school that charters/rents the boats you have learned on. We rent the boats our students learn on; boats from 23 ft to 42 ft. That said; it is our risk to make sure you really know what you are doing. Look for schools that include free practice sails or rentals. Steer clear of the guy who quickly certifies you on his boat but won't allow you to sail her there after.
09-19-2011 04:33 AM
groggy I've sailed with people from another US Sailing school, people from ASA, and even from Cal sailing club. The skills and terminology seem _very_ standard - same commands, same theories.

The real difference was the general clearheadedness of the person.

I think that the cert agency matters much less than the specific school and its instructors and gear, and the attentiveness of the student.

If you have lots of choices, look up yelp, talk to anyone you know who's been through the schools, and check out the programs in person.

I am pretty lucky to have a number of great schools in my area, so choosing was a matter of too many great choices. I based my choice on reputation, location, and the boats used in the classes.

There were other choices with better reputations but less variety in boats (BK and BC taught on the same boats), lower cost but farther away, cheaper but less great sailing area. There were a lot of trade-offs and options. If I didnt like the first course I took I would have switched schools.

Really the only thing that didn't really matter to me was the cert agency. US sailing and ASA seem to be very similarly respected worldwide.
09-18-2011 10:55 AM
nicktoday
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Originally Posted by ASACN View Post
Hey all,

I'm the Executive Director of the ASA, and wanted to throw in my 2 cents regarding ASA and US Sailing.

Certification, and the education and practice that goes with it, can be extremely valuable. It also evidences that you have achieved a given level of proficiency, which is helpful when chartering.

However, learning to sail and PRACTICING should be one's goal. Some people get certified and then don't go sailing. That's not the point. Certification means little if you learn in a week and don't get out on the water for a year or two. That's why diving facilities, for example, don't just ask "Are you PADI or NAUI certified," but "When is the last time you dove?"

ASA and US Sailing standards are nearly identical. Both systems have many excellent schools and instructors, and each system can claim "bragging rights" over the other in certain respects. US Sailing is the official amateur racing body for sailing in the US. ASA has more sailing schools in its network and was the first to introduce keelboat standards to the U.S. But the most important consideration is the quality of the particular school and instructor, not "which system is better."
I have to tell you that I found this thread from a search as I'm in the Tampa area and I'm trying to figure out what certification is better for me as it's a large investment and I wanted to ensure I was educated. To have someone that is a Executive Director respond to this thread with the classy answer you just gave speaks volumes to what I have found in this community so far.

I don't know which is better but at this point I'm going to continue to evaluate schools and instructors I connect with first - I just wanted to say thank you for your classy response.
01-04-2011 02:27 PM
HeartsContent Very interesting thread. It sounds like US Sailing or ASA course are pretty equivalent but I would be interested in the previous question of whether one program accepts the other program's equivalent courses as pre-requisites.

I am giving some thought to do one of the live aboard classes out of St. Petersburg, Florida.
01-04-2011 12:24 PM
dergon
Mix and Match Certs.

Just a bit more thread necromancy here.

mrs_dergon and I already have ASA 101/103/104/114 (that's Basic keelboat and bareboat charter + catamaran)....just enough to charter on vacation.

I would like to considering some of the more advanced courses.

Does it matter one bit if I now go over to a sailing school that uses USSA for its Coastal Nav., Coastal passage, celestial, etc?


Many of these courses are pre-reqs for the next. One USSA school will likely accept equivalent ASA courses as fulfilling prerequisites, yes?

Thanks
12-04-2010 11:33 AM
jackdale No yelling or name calling. I am neither ASA or USSailing.

What matters is the quality of instruction.

BTW people ask the same question about NAUI and PADI for dive instruction. I am SSI (formerly NASDS) certified. No problem.

Jack
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