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08-19-2014 11:29 PM
rhpike
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

On the other hand, my Raymarine E-80 chart plotter has a Navionics Gold chip, and it accounts for variation. That is handled through the Raymarine setup menu.
08-19-2014 11:27 PM
rhpike
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

I love my iPad 2 and the Navionics app. I just need to remember that the app and it's routes are in degrees True, as the app does not account for mag Variation. So, you need to apply variation the any courses created on the app if you plan to follow your regular compass while on that route. If you follow the route on the iPad, your are ok, but on old timer like me follows the compass.
05-29-2014 12:37 PM
Minnesail
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

As has been said, you don't need to get a data plan with the 4G iPad.

And if you do, there's no contract. It's just month to month, so you could go without a data plan for 11 months, then in July decide you want to be able to download weather and pay the $15 for that month only.
05-29-2014 07:35 AM
Magnolia
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

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Originally Posted by 4arch View Post
Just to clarify, you do not have to pay for 4G data service to use the built in GPS capabilities of the 4G iPad.
Thank you, I did not know this.
05-28-2014 03:19 PM
rockDAWG
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

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Originally Posted by CaptainRahnn View Post
Chart plotter or IPad
Thanks
Redundancy is good. we have three, and all work independently from reach other.
1, chartplotter
2. iPad or iPhone
3. Garmin 78SC

When lightning is around, I turn off except one.
05-28-2014 03:05 PM
TakeFive
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

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...I like that many windows tablets and convertibles can operate as a full fledged PC and run OpenCPN and lots of other traditional PC nav software. I hope the other platforms also move away from the separation that now exists between apps and regular software.
For all the pot-shots that people have taken at Windows 8, the ability to run both Metro apps and legacy programs on a tablet form factor is a huge plus for those of us who want that capability. Microsoft does not get enough credit for having the foresight to build this capability into their tablets.

FWIW, I can't imagine why anyone who wants to use their iPad as a GPS device would purchases a WiFi-only version. An external dongle is OK if you already have a WiFi only model that you want to retrofit, but if you're buying new it just doesn't make any sense to buy the WiFi only model. I guess some people refuse to let go of the (incorrect) notion that you need to buy a data plan for the GPS to work.
05-28-2014 02:56 PM
miatapaul
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

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Just to clarify, you do not have to pay for 4G data service to use the built in GPS capabilities of the 4G iPad. The WiFi only iPad does not have built in GPS. The cost difference is $129. The add on external GPS unit that is required for navigation with the WiFi only iPad starts around $100, so you don't save much by buying the WiFi unit.

I've had the iPad for a few years now and like it well enough but honestly, if it wasn't for iNavX and Garmin BlueChart Mobile being iOS only, I'd probably be very tempted to jump to an Android or Windows based tablet. The selection of nav apps for Android seems to be particularly lacking, which I thought would have started to change by now, especially with more and more waterproof devices being released on that platform. I like that many windows tablets and convertibles can operate as a full fledged PC and run OpenCPN and lots of other traditional PC nav software. I hope the other platforms also move away from the separation that now exists between apps and regular software.
With the exception of Garmin, I think Android is fine as it has Navonics, and it seems to be the gold standard tablet software for either Android or iOS. While it is not free it is cheap. There are other apps on Android as well like anchor drag alarms. I don't think there are as many as for iOS, but there are equivalents to just about everything, just not a choice of 20. I think Google Glass has a real opportunity to change the Android market as well, without having to even have a display could be cool. No complaining about big mounts on the binical, just a pair of sunglasses. Biggest issue is they are expensive now, $1500. I got an invitation to get a developers set but can't justify 1500 at this point. My understanding is that the display on them works quite well with sunglasses in the sun. That is the biggest drawback of any tablet is full sun visibility. But there is basically no reason the glass won't come down to a 4 or 5 hundred bucks in the near future as there is nothing terribly complicated about it as it is basically a smartphone with a heads up display. I could see usable copies being a couple hundred dollars.
05-28-2014 12:38 PM
4arch
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

Just to clarify, you do not have to pay for 4G data service to use the built in GPS capabilities of the 4G iPad. The WiFi only iPad does not have built in GPS. The cost difference is $129. The add on external GPS unit that is required for navigation with the WiFi only iPad starts around $100, so you don't save much by buying the WiFi unit.

I've had the iPad for a few years now and like it well enough but honestly, if it wasn't for iNavX and Garmin BlueChart Mobile being iOS only, I'd probably be very tempted to jump to an Android or Windows based tablet. The selection of nav apps for Android seems to be particularly lacking, which I thought would have started to change by now, especially with more and more waterproof devices being released on that platform. I like that many windows tablets and convertibles can operate as a full fledged PC and run OpenCPN and lots of other traditional PC nav software. I hope the other platforms also move away from the separation that now exists between apps and regular software.
05-28-2014 11:58 AM
outbound
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

sailing weather or NOAA/NWS for a quick peak and any one of the programs showing grib files seem to be quite good. Also download Annapolis Sailing book or Chapman's. Use Wavy Line in Caribe for charts- works good.
Have fun.
05-28-2014 11:10 AM
DRFerron
Re: Chart plotter or IPad

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Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
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Which Ipad should I get...I know to get the one with GPS....but what Memory size should I get?
As much as you can afford. One advantage of the iPad is that it does other things.

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Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
Also, when using the Ipad, are you all also buying a Data Plan or strictly only using the Wifi capability and not the 3G or 4G capability?
I have the wifi only iPad and bought an external GPS to use with it. No regrets on not spending the extra money for 3G and a data plan. My phone has 3G and if I want to transfer files between them while not in wifi range, I have a bluetooth file transfer app to do that.


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Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
Another question: On the Ipad...what programs should I download...which ones work best? Inav or Navionics? Others?
I love, LOVE the Garmin Bluechart app. Others find it difficult. With the money you saved not buying the 3G iPad download several and see which works for you. I think I have about four on my iPad but only use the Garmin. I stuck with the one that I figured out the quickest how to use to navigate. The other bells and whistles are a happy extra.

Also, don't forget the weather apps. There are some extraordinary weather, wind, and radar apps available. I consider them important to my navigation.
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