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02-23-2003 10:22 AM
A Philoshopical Question

I worked at a marina 28 yrs ago and met all kinds of dreamers sailing off in ferro-cement, strip planked, steel, and fiberglass home builts. Those were the heady days of West Sail the world.The best was a gentleman who sold off his 42'' ketch because the kids were married and busy and no crew. He took the money and had a gorgeous 26'' double ended flush deck wood sloop built.Over the companionway was a bronze plaque with the inscription, "It''s better to grab a sure thing then wish for a might of been." That is how you should approach your decision.Lots of dreamers still on the beach.I''d rather be messing around in boats.
02-15-2003 11:36 AM
A Philoshopical Question

Good point JeffC......and were I heading out now, such would be the case. But I have 3+ yrs before I go, so am basically just trying to get my ducks in a row at this point. So I don''t have to go through these contortions when the time comes. I doubt I "need" bluewater to fully enjoy a liveaboard crusing lifestyle, but I have many friends in Europe and Australia that I would love to visit. Whether I would feel I had the ability to do so, only time will tell. As well as the question of what will be available when it''s time to buy.

So, I''m in limbo, only in the sense I have to wait. I''m already committed to the cruising life, in whatever form it takes.

Fair winds,
02-15-2003 09:38 AM
A Philoshopical Question


This is very late, but comes from someone who knows about sitting on the fence and delaying decisions:

As I read your philosophical question, it seems to me that the real problem is that you are keeping yourself from making a committment to act because of the <em>possibility</em> that you <em>might</em> want to go offshore. You fear that if you make a decision you will lose a set of possibilities. But not committing leaves you in a state of limbo (and there ain''t no boats in limbo).
I agree with Jeff H: commit to the idea of coastal cruising, which you acknowledge will keep you busy and happy for a good long while, but hedge your bet a bit by choosing a boat that has some offshore capability. Combined with your un-hurried sailing style, you then can sneak in a bit of blue water and taste that experience as well.
It will feel good to have decided. Then the plan you have committed to will be able to crystalize in your imagination. More importantly, you will finally be able to <em>move</em> toward your goal, since you finally have a tangible one.

Why miss out on so much "good" because you''re waiting, hoping for a slim chance of "great"?
<em>Tempus Fugit!</em>

02-10-2003 05:09 PM
A Philoshopical Question

someone mentioned that the boat will pick you. this is quite true! look at everyone you can, and don''t limit yourself to 50k. look at everything. I found the most unlikely boat because - well it caught me! It was over budget, bigger, better, and way way prettier. you will find one. A survey will dispense any questions when you get that far. Maybe its more important to get a surveyor that you like then a boat you think you like! Any oh yes, jump on it!! punch it, squeeze it, and if anyone says careful, get off it and look at a different one.
02-10-2003 03:55 AM
A Philoshopical Question

I think there is some discussion to be had with respect to CC''s and interior cabin space and accomodations. When I was searching for my boat, a Wauquiez Hood 38, 22,000 lbs displ, I looked at several boats up to 43 ft LOA that were CC''s. As I wanted a boat that could serve as a possible livaboard in the future, cabin layout and space was important.

I contend that a 42 ft CC has about the same cabin "space" down below as many aft cockpit 38''s. If you look at two very popular 42 and 43ft CC''s: the Whitby 42 and Morgan 43 CC, you will find that in order to accomodate the CC, the main salon is pushed forward to where the beam begins to narrow greatly and the layout is essentially identical to any 38 footer. In fact, in the case of the Morgan 43, the cabin is pinched so far forward to accomodate the CC and large aft stateroom, that the salon is just two straight "yacht 101" settees and the Vee berth almost too small to sleep in (IMHO). Yes, you get the large aft stateroom and a CC on deck....but it is, in my opinion, at the expense of the main salon.

I think there are pro''s and con''s to the CC configuration. But I think it is fair to say that it comes at the expense listed above.

Just a thought.

My best to all

02-09-2003 05:23 PM
A Philoshopical Question

Ahoy PBzeer, I bought a 27'' boat that had been aroung the world so I''ve solved my problem with a sure thing. Coastal can go anywhere if ye got de guts and the knowhow.The Pirate of Pine Island
02-09-2003 07:03 AM
A Philoshopical Question

this is a bit late....hope you will read this one day or another, PBzeer.

The boat actually does choose you, and not you the boat. Have just learnt by personal don''t break your head too much.

good luck
01-08-2003 08:33 AM
A Philoshopical Question

Eric get some sleep. Of course the man is unequivocally wrong. Ask your wife.
01-07-2003 08:29 PM
A Philoshopical Question

If a man speaks and his wife is not around is he still wrong?
01-07-2003 05:56 PM
A Philoshopical Question

Thanks for all the thought provoking responses. I realize, in the end, it comes down to a personal decision, and even that, sometimes, the boat picks you rather than you pick the boat. But any input makes it that much easier, and it''s great to have a forum such as this, and people interested in sharing their opinions, to get that input. So once again, my thanks and appreciation for these and any responses to follow. I look forward to the day I have the experience to do the same for others.

Fair winds
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