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01-09-2008 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by mccary View Post
I have been a sailor on The Chesapeake bay for almost 30 years. I have sailed on boats from 8' to 300' including my 22' Seafarer and a Skipjack (for a day) and 2 square rigged ships (both short times as well). Most of my sailing will be with my wife, but I consider it short handed sailing and would like to rig the boat for single handed. Any tips you may have would be helpful.

Racing isn't in my plans although I have raced extensively on a Tartan 33R on The Bay a while back. I see my sailing as mostly day sailing and weekend trips with the possibility of a week long voyage. I have sailed The Bay from Georgetown on The Sassafras to Yorktown on The York. But the majority of my sailing has been around the central part, Annapolis to Herring Bay with West River as my center of the sailing universe.

I am seriously considering purchasing a used Cat 27 this coming winter/spring. I am seeking any tips you may have on what to watch for. I think I want to only consider an Outboard version so when I have to deal with re-power it is greatly simplified and less costly.

Joe McCary
West River, MD

Hi Joe,

I have a 75 Catalina - Dinette shoal draft. We love it! I completely restored it inside and out and will do it again when in needs it. They get decent PHRF ratings and do well as a cruiser, big enough to sleep on, small enough to sling around. Everyone I have ever spoken to that has moved up or on has always wished they had their 27 back. Look for keel seperation on older ones and make sure the chainplates are updated. Other than that they are bullet proof with parts everywhere. Kind of like the chevy 350 Good luck!

12-15-2007 05:38 PM
harvrose Be sure to join, pay the dues and get the Mainsheet magazine, the best mag for maintaining a C-27.
Best of Luck
12-12-2007 01:08 AM
rsn48 Congrats on your purchase, being on the water is awesome and the Cat 27 sails very nicely. Here's a line with the purists I like to use: they'll say, "well the boat is a production boat!" I will respond with: "My BMW is a production car but I love it."
12-12-2007 12:33 AM
Originally Posted by kwaltersmi View Post
Great website, Joe!

I like the Catalina 27 a lot. I've thought about it as a nice "next step" boat for me and my family. Here's a nice creampuff example in my backyard:

Best of luck!
Thanks for the comment on the website... Let me make a suggestion on purchase. In the fall before I bought my boat Good Old Boat magazine had an article about buying used boats and had suggestions on how to make offers. Basically it said offer way low and negotiate up. Thatís what I did and I think my $6K was a good deal. One more suggestion, make the offer in the winter. The reason is NO one looks at boats in the winter and the seller will be more agreeable to offers. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
12-11-2007 08:55 PM
kwaltersmi Great website, Joe!

I like the Catalina 27 a lot. I've thought about it as a nice "next step" boat for me and my family. Here's a nice creampuff example in my backyard:

Best of luck!
11-19-2007 05:08 PM
punjabi How cool! Congratulations! I hope I can relay a similar experience once I find my cream puff.
11-18-2007 08:03 PM
camaraderie Thanks for the update's always nice to hear the results AND have another happy sailor out there! Good luck with her.
11-18-2007 07:57 PM
mccary Well, it's just over a year later and I thought I would post an update. I spent last fall doing research and last winter looking at boats and finding what boats were available via the internet. As I narrowed my choices down to a Catalina 27 and armed with the suggestions I learned here, I felt confident when I went out to look at boats. It is amazing what you see when the harbors are frozen over the owners are egger to show their boats. One was so nervous he slipped boarding his boat and fell into the skim iced over water! But it was worth m asking these quick inspections, so many boats were so dirty and not buffed up that I saw the real boat and not someone's detail job. One boat I looked at was advertised as an outboard model. When I boarded the boat, frozen in the slip, it was clean and I thought I had found a deal. But I opened the hatch under the companionway and discovered that this had been an inboard model that the engine was recently yanked out of. All the electrical and mechanical connections were still there, along with decades of grease and oil: it was a mess. A close look showed the propeller shaft still in place and leaking. Not the problem I wanted to start with at any savings.

Then in February I saw what looked like a cream puff. I went down 3 different times (without the owner or broker). I went over everything on the boat (except the outboard which was off the boat). The sails were almost new, the roller furler was in excellent shape. There were no deck soft spots and it was clean. The only thing that I saw that needed replacing was the radio. So I went to see the broker. The boat was offered at $7500. I offered 4500. I got a pretty strange look from the broker as I handed my good faith check. He said he would relay my offer. A few days later I received a message. A counter offer of $6K, right down the middle (maybe I should have offered less). The Owner said he was due to pick up the engine in 2 weeks so we set the date to look at the engine and have the boat pulled for a look at the bottom then and I agreed to the price, with the agreement that both the bottom and engine were in good shape. The appointed day came and I went down and met the owner. We went over everything on the boat, electrical, the stove, etc. Everything worked, even all the lights. He, with my help, installed the nearly new Honda 9.9 4 stroke (on a custom bracket) and we motored over to the brokerage/marina. The boat was pulled and there was nothing wrong anywhere with the below waterline. So I wrote a check and became the new owner. The next day was March 11th. I went down and moved the boat back to my slip. The following day I was stricken with a serious bladder infection that had me in bed for 3 days, I would have gone in the hospital except my daughter, a doctor in Boston, analyzed my situation and had me started on strong antibiotics the night I came home. I was out of commission for the next 3 weeks and then with a previous commitment I was off to the UK with the wife's HS Theatre troupe for 10 days. It wasn't until April 21st that I went sailing on my new boat.

The end of the story will be in many years, but for now I have been sailing as often as possible and enjoying every minute. Thanks to the help from guys like you!

My sailing blog can be read at:
11-04-2006 02:33 PM
camaraderie Mccary... we owned a cat27 some time bac and loved the way she sailed and the good value she was. I would suggest you think about the inboard however as many on the market have already been replaced by prior owners and are in good shape AND aside form the advantages of an inboard, they are also easier to buy and sell as that is what most people want on this size boat. Happy hunting!
11-03-2006 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Parley
Bottom line: Happily pay for a survey. Money very well spent.
One more note: Catalina is still in existence. This is huge! I have called the factory for advice on a number of issues. They are extremely helpful, will provide loads of info on your specific boat, and still have replacement parts, upgrades, etc. Some of the best customer service I have come across in todays economy.
Well after owning a boat (Seafarer 22) for almost 29 years, I appeciate your comments! I love the Seafarer but not having the support of a factory is a real minus. That is one key reason I am looking at Catalina. Your point about a Survey is well taken and I think I will start looking for one to use. Thank you for your suggestions.
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