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|04-25-2008 10:11 AM|
Originally Posted by devilfishlane View Post
|04-25-2008 01:39 AM|
Originally Posted by devilfishlane View Post
|04-25-2008 01:09 AM|
Thanks for all the replies
What I learned ----
Ill definitely buy an Epirb, liferaft, autopilot, equipment to singlehand , extra batteries, sea anchor, but a water making ?? not sure
Continue to learn as much as I can about sailing the particular boat, systems, weather , etc
Ill cruise to St Thomas or PR(from Miami) with a very experienced captain or crew without the wife and kid. Then flew em in to continue
and live it up! Again it will be only a 8 months to 1 yr trip
I am looking at the 90-91 Catalina 34 because thats what I can afford (50k), its got a large cabin and its popular and made for the Caribbean
Where am I going wrong? Any other advice ? Thanks again
|04-24-2008 05:43 PM|
|nightwatch||There is a couple down the way that have 2 kids that are now 9 and 11. They were both born on board and home schooled through the 2ed grade. When we were looking for a boat we saw an Irwin 37 with a family of 6. 4 kids. The oldest was entering high school so they were moving ashore for the high school education of the herd. That is a small boat for that many people, but if your organized it can work. The kids were mature, well educated and very well behaved. And not really wanting to give up the cruising life. It can be a beautiful thing. God’s speed.|
|04-24-2008 05:37 PM|
|Freesail99||I really do think this is a terrible idea, far be on bad. Sailing with children is one thing. Sailing with a baby is a far, far different thing. Heaven forbid you ever have to go into the water. The baby's chances are slim and none. I was/am a single Dad, I raised my kids. I always put there needs first. Think long and hard here about your family, not yourself.|
|04-24-2008 05:36 PM|
In SORTA staying with the thread....
RC....you mentioned buying in the Carib Vs. the States......??......is there that much difference in prices? what about taxes? Legal Titles?....
Or should I start another thread?
|04-24-2008 05:14 PM|
The Martins did it!
In the mid 1980's, Dave Martin and his Dad, sailed a tired 25'er from the West coast to (if I remember correctly) the Northeast coast of the U.S. The boat('Direction') was so beat up, Dave had to beef up the ailing sloop to circumnavigate. After much to do, Westward Ho. I believe in '88 he met Jaja (future wife) and together they continued the circumnavigation. On the way they married and had 3 children, two of which joined as crew at the ripe old age of 1 day! They had no where near your proposed budget, but picked up jobs doing fairly hard work in marinas and what not. That is probably not your intention, but it does point out that depending on how much one wants the 'DREAM', most things are possible.
What said, I think with a well found boat,(sounds as if you have the time to find and well prepare one, and it does not have to be lavish) with the proper safety equipment and the willingness to keep things simple, your 'plan' is doable. The older one gets, the less agreeable this sounds. I find as I get older, I object to not having ice in my beverage and I tend to shy away from the PB&J sandwiches. We all have our limits and priorities, you no doubt will sort yours out (and the wifes)as well. Learn all you can, listen to the old salts advice, maybe some sailing instruction and try to do some sailing with others. It's always good to have or make a friend with a boat. I can't tell you how many times I've read by the 'Do'ers', "Go Simple, But go NOW"! Keep the dream alive and congrates on the future little bundle.
|04-24-2008 04:41 PM|
I think your plan...given your experience is rather foolish. It is no cakewalk to the Caribe and planning to do so with a baby means you will have to singlehand and keep watch and take care of baby with two inexperienced sailors in a boat that is capable but not WELL suited for the trip. This is not to dump on your dream but to suggest it needs major modification:
1. Get the boat and wander around the Bahamas...700 islands...lots of EASY sailing and wonderful spots. Head north and explore the ICW & chesapeake when hurricane season approaches,... or head south to the DR and wait it out there if you want a rustic/3rd world experience (though I wouldn't take a baby there).
2. Buy the boat in the Caribe and eliminate the hard part. Learn to sail in the Virgin Islands where it is pretty safe and protected. It is easier sailing BACK to florida with the tradewinds at your back and some experience under your belt.
|04-24-2008 03:42 PM|
My experience is bareboating, If you stay away from tourist area shopping and sail off the beaten path it can be done.
For preparation factor in a good battery bank, solar panels and wind genny (3-4k if you do the work yourself) so you can use the diesel for only motoring the boat to get somewhere. Small water makers can be had for under 2k, and might be priceless; enough solar panel output and you can make 'free' water enough for everyone.
My refridge runs on propane which is cheap just about everywhere but still runs 20 bucks for 3 weeks of ice and cold food (Dometric brand, 4cu ft).
Read up a lot from the folks like the Pardley's on how to live and sail on the cheap (tarps for rain water etc..).
It can be done. I've read books on guys living on 22 ft catalina's living off 200 a month. It can be done. We ALL hope it can be done because that's what most of us are planning
My Navy retirement check is a bit larger than your budget, but I'll add in a sizable quantity of rum and coke to my expenses. How we hope it can be done
You'll have to extend your range or risk hurricane season sitting in the center of the dartboard tho. That's where careful planning and weather window choices can get you through on a Catalina 34. I'd look older and stouter if the option is still open.
|04-24-2008 02:45 PM|
|FarCry||Reality, good point Hud may have meant per person/day. You may not be too far off on fuel prices in the Virgins. Diesel sold on the water in St Thomas and St John varied yesterday between $4.59 and $5.25/gallon. Fuel in St Croix is always much cheaper and of course there is Venezuela for really cheap fuel. Don't know how friendly a place that would be to spend time though. Filled up my Jeep today with gas at $4.11/gallon. OUCH!!!!|
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