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05-06-2008 07:26 PM
knothead
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Originally Posted by Eihli View Post
Ok I think I'm gonna try to hoist myself up tomorrow and take a closer look. The boat came with a harness for doing that. On the S2 8.0 though, the halyard goes through the mast, making it a 2 person job. I was thinking though, I could rig a block to the main halyard, run the harness rope through that block, and raise the block up to the top of the mast and then pull myself up with it. Is that safe/reasonable?
In my business I use either a 6 to 1 block and tackle system, for when I'm working alone and have to haul my own fat ass along with 40 lbs of tool and various parts up the mast, or a 2 to 1 with a ratchet block (at the bottom) for when I have my associate to help me.

Whatever you use, just be careful. Use a second halyard to hold whatever block and tackle system. Even if you have to wrap it around from the other side of the mast.
Never use a snap shackle.
Don't trust a splice that you haven't proven. Tie a Bowline knot. (If you don't know the bowline, well then there's your next project.)
Have someone standing by. Even if it's just to tail the line for you. (That means taking a few turns around a winch or one turn around a horn cleat and keeping the slack out of the line)

You will do fine. Just be methodical and redundant when it comes to safety.
05-06-2008 07:25 PM
artbyjody Call a friend to help you or ask one of the folks on the dock to assist. Don't try and do it yourself - especially considering you have never done it before. If you do decide to take a VHF handheld or cell phone up with you in case you just do not make it back down
05-06-2008 07:14 PM
Eihli Ok I think I'm gonna try to hoist myself up tomorrow and take a closer look. The boat came with a harness for doing that. On the S2 8.0 though, the halyard goes through the mast, making it a 2 person job. I was thinking though, I could rig a block to the main halyard, run the harness rope through that block, and raise the block up to the top of the mast and then pull myself up with it. Is that safe/reasonable?
05-06-2008 07:09 PM
knothead
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Originally Posted by sailingfool View Post
There's no reason you can't work on the rigging with the mast up, its just not too convenient and you need to be careful when putting someone up in the air. With any common sense your mast won't fall down...don't release the uppers and lowers on the same side at the same time..either set will hold the mast in place just don't go sailing...

PS - I've never seen an adjustable spreader...
I've only seen adjustable spreaders on very small rigging. I think some dingy sailors are able to adjust their spreaders fore and aft.



It sound like Eihli is describing spreader boots to me but I could be wrong. I would suggest that he speak to some knowledgeable people on the dock. There are always "experts" around.

Eihli, get lots of opinions from people around the marina and then, just like with the center-board, check it out for yourself.

It's really not much more difficult to climb to the first set of spreaders than it is to dive under your boat and feel around.

You need to investigate, learn about and come to be familiar and comfortable with most if not all of the systems on your boat.

In order to be a competent and confidence inspiring skipper who will have all those bikini clad admirers clamoring for the opportunity to sail with you,
you need to be a hands on - get your head into it kind of sailor.

We are glad you came here and are glad to help.
05-06-2008 06:45 PM
sailingfool There's no reason you can't work on the rigging with the mast up, its just not too convenient and you need to be careful when putting someone up in the air. With any common sense your mast won't fall down...don't release the uppers and lowers on the same side at the same time..either set will hold the mast in place just don't go sailing...

PS - I've never seen an adjustable spreader...
05-06-2008 06:45 PM
JimsCAL I looks like you may have a problem with that spreader. If it fails while sailing in strong winds, the mast could come down. I would definitely check this out during the haulout.
05-06-2008 06:35 PM
Eihli

That's what it looks like on my boat.
05-06-2008 05:51 PM
sailortjk1 Is it just the covers that are not in place, or has the shroud slipped out of the spreader?
If the upper shroud is not propperly attached to the spreader, you have some problems that need addressing in a rather urgent manner. I would not recommend SAILING until you figure this out. If its just the cover, no big deal. If its the shroud, that is another story all together.
If it is the shrould, than the upper half of your mast is not supported on the one side.
If you are hauling the boat, than why wouldn't you look at it than?
You could probably drop the stick at the same time and do a very thorough examination of all the standing rigging.
05-06-2008 05:48 PM
beej67 You aught to be able to do any spreader work while the boats in the water, if that's your preference. When you do, make sure the spreader is angled properly.

05-06-2008 05:47 PM
knothead
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Originally Posted by Eihli View Post
It looks like they are metal, I've seen the plastic spreader boots in the West Marine catalog and I don't think that's what these are.

I can't recall ever encountering metal bulbs at the ends of the spreaders. But I learn new things everyday.
Usually, the shroud is restrained in some manner at the spreader tip. Seizing wire or a special tip that is made for holding the wire captive. Then a boot is often placed over that to keep chafe from occurring when the sail lays against or drags over it.

Can you post a photo?
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