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05-12-2008 10:44 AM
sailingdog Also, if you're thinking of certain upgrades, like going to a mast track with would be the time to do it..
05-12-2008 09:39 AM
T34C My local loft that made my new headsail designs, cuts, and assembles ALL sails in-house. How do I know? I watched the whole time. They were very thorough in measuring. The owner of the loft even came out and raced one day with me to see how the sail was performing. After the race he recommened a couple of adjustments and then took the sail back and made the changes at no cost to me.

In my opinion your thinking is correct, but you should try having this same conversation with the sailmaker. Give them as much info as you can and ask for their input as much as possible. They are the professionals, and should be able to narrow your options down for you.
05-12-2008 09:21 AM
PBzeer Most larger sails are not made in-house, has been my experience, though UV covers and such are put on at the local level.
05-12-2008 09:03 AM

One other thing is where the sail is made. A friend of mine ordered a sail from a local loft and it was made in China. It was made wrong and the loft had to make a new one at their expence. He was never told that the sail would be made over seas..
05-12-2008 08:37 AM
PBzeer Can't, they closed up shop. But I would stay away from Doyle in Annapolis.
05-12-2008 08:34 AM
sailingdog PBz-

IF you liked the guys who did your might want to say who did the work...
05-12-2008 08:20 AM
PBzeer Here's what I went through when buying my new sails. First, we discussed where I would be sailing primarily, along with a discussion of the boat, and how it sailed on the current sails, as well as what I expected from the sails. That gave us a base to work from as to what cloth and how heavy. Then we got into reef points, cunningham, and loose footed or not. Since I was getting a StackPak, full battens were part of the deal.

We spent a good hour or more, just going over this and the options available. By the time we were done, I felt satisfied that I was getting a sail that would be what I wanted, for what I intended to do. After that, he came out to the boat and THOROUGHLY measured the rig. Did I say thoroughly? When the sail came in, he mounted all hardware and the sail, and it has been everything I wanted.

Went through a similar process with the headsail, though that loft, in my opinion, was not nearly as meticulous as the other one. As a result, I'm not quite as pleased with the sail as I was with the main. It's still a good sail, but there were some little issues (like putting the UV cover on the wrong side).

It's the loft that makes the difference, not the brand so much. That's my experience.
05-12-2008 07:59 AM
sailingdog Also, just remember that roller furling will only let you furl about 30% of the sail area before it starts to get too baggy for heavy air use.
05-12-2008 02:24 AM
chris_gee Thats why I suggest a staysail. You may want a bigger genoa in the light but can't really expect to go from 500 sq ft to 125. My understanding is sails are designed for limited ranges. A 130% may be ok in the light but even reefed to 100% is unlikely to have a range 5-20 without stretching. 18 knots with a 100% plan is not unusual. My query is what is your plan at 25, 30, 35 and 40.
I know the main is reefed first but there is a limit both to sail design speed and boat balance.
05-12-2008 01:01 AM
MedSailor I guess the sailing wind "range" of the sails is one of the big things I need to work out. Currently we only have 100% jibs (375sqft) that came with the boat. I don't think this is enough canvas for most conditions as we have a heavy 28,000disp (dry) boat. In 18kts of wind we could have the full working plan up without feeling overpowered.

One of the main goals for my sails is to try and increase sail area as much as possible, thus I am trying to make my headsail as big as possible but still usable up into the wind ranges where I would switch to the 125sqft storm jib.

Since I'm on a ketch the headsail isn't reefed first, the main is. This increases the upper range the genoa will see and thus hinders it's lower range (I think). Finding that sweet spot is what I'm having trouble with right now.

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