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|10-10-2008 12:10 PM|
hunter vs beneteau
I've been sailing a 281 for about 4 years and love it. I almost exclusively single had and it is the perfect boat for that. One advantage that I have (for ease of single handing) is in-mast furling. With the unlimited sail sizes I can achieve, I sail this light (6000#) boat in anything under 40 kts. The boat is tender and with a conventional main sail, you'll probably want to reef at about 15kts but the boat is stable and really fun.
|09-21-2008 07:59 PM|
|JimsCAL||I personally think the "sweet spot" of the market is boats about 10 years old. Still relatively new and thus not requiring extensive upgrading but have already taken the big hit on depreciation. If you keep the boat up, you can use it for a number of years and then sell it for not much less than what you paid.|
|09-21-2008 07:52 PM|
Originally Posted by johnshasteen View Post
Thanks for all the comments! Going to look at them both this week and keep my eyes out for a slightly bigger older one.
|09-21-2008 04:33 PM|
Of course, I'm biased...my first boat is an 86' Beneteau...easy to singlehand...fast!...was in great shape and the build was better than some much newer.
People are shocked when they hear the age.
|09-21-2008 01:48 PM|
|johnshasteen||You didn't say where you plan on doing most of your sailing. If it's bays and close-to-shore, coastal crusing then any boat you like will do. If you are thinking about offshore in a year or two when you are more accomplished, neither of these boats is a blue water warrior - keep looking. As others have said, for the same money you can buy an older, much stronger, well maintained boat from the 70's in the same size range - if it needs work, the price will be lower.|
|09-21-2008 06:06 AM|
|bubb2||I know both boats. The Hunter being a little biger then the bennie. More interiour room in the hunter. however I like the deck layout of the bennie better and I also know it sails faster then hunter. I am not a big fan of the hunter's B&G rig. I think that bennie would be the easier to single hand. All that being said, price and condition also come in to play.|
|09-21-2008 12:23 AM|
It is not necessary to put a boat away here in NYC. Last three winters were mild. It was quite possible to sail year around. Those sunny winter days with just a little wind can be best days to learn your new boat. In water storage can be actually cheaper than storage on hard, and you will get a perfect excuse to escape a family, get down to your boat, open engine compartment, do nothing and feel great entitlement. It takes a few weeks of just watching all those wires, hoses, ropes, several engine starting and shutting down and valve opening to get slight idea of the purpose. Do not waist a winter.
Boat condition is more important than the age. You are talking about 10 years old boats, they may be as worn down as 20 y.o. boat.
For simplicity of single handling and nice interior I'd vote for older Freedom.
|09-20-2008 11:27 PM|
I had thought about looking at some older boats but was afraid they might come with too many headaches. I guess buying a boat is like buying a house? Just look at a lot of them till you find the one you love and then get it inspected to make sure there are no problems...
If I do look at boats from the 70s/80s is there anything in particular I should keep my eyes out for?
Thanks for all the advice.
|09-20-2008 04:34 PM|
Buy your boat when you find one that you feel is right for you, if that's this fall fine, if not, whenever. Given the storgae and carrying costs you don't necessarily make out by buying in the Fall...buy when you have the right boat.
Given the size boat you are interested in, I'd strongly recommend buying one of a quality, classic 30 footer: Pearson, Tartan, Cataline, Cal, Ericson, Sabre all made nice boats in mid-70-80s that will provide a lot more boat, and a better boat, than the two newer alternatives you are looking at. With the older 30 for the same money you should be able to find one that has been upgraded, don't try to buy cheap, you'll make out better fi you pay a premium for a premium example.
|09-20-2008 09:08 AM|
Not personally familiar with these models, but either should make a fine first boat. Buy the one that you like and is in the best condition. And of course, get a survey.
You should be able to negotiate a good price this time of year. Winter storage runs about $1000 to $1500 on Long Island for a boat that size. You should be able to use that as part of your negotiation as the current owner is looking at laying that out.
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