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10-19-2008 08:16 PM
Classic30
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Originally Posted by SVDistantStar View Post
I really don't think i could fit a u-shaped dinette in the area. The table with 2 benches idea is going to work out best. Ive also considered building it back to factory.
SVD, from what I can see from your photos, if there's not enough room for a U-shape, it doesn't look like you'll have enough space.

Even making the seats higher, I'd suspect that the curvature of the hull will remove most, if not all, of the leg-room from the person against the hull (though okay for small kids I suppose) and the table will take up quite a bit of valuable storage space, although if it can be lowered, you'd have a double berth.

The reason pilot berths are fitted as standard in most small boats is because they maximise the available seating & storage space, given the curvature of the hull. U-shaped dinettes work great, but you need plenty of beam to have a seat against the hull and seating for two between that and the centerline...

.. but with that in mind, seeing as you're going to replace the bulkhead anyway, could you move your fore/aft passageway further to starboard?? It's a bigger job, but a U-shaped dinette might fit then.

Just my .05 cents worth...
10-18-2008 08:49 PM
rikhall This is ours and we like the space / comfort / usability ratios

10-18-2008 08:27 PM
SVDistantStar I really don't think i could fit a u-shaped dinette in the area. The table with 2 benches idea is going to work out best. Ive also considered building it back to factory.

As for the water tank, why would anyone cut out half your fresh water storage?

This is what factory would have looked like.
10-18-2008 06:03 PM
Faster SVD - the shape of that defunct water tank almost looks like it was meant to accommodate a dinette of some sort in the first place..

We currently have a center line table and we miss the off set Ushaped dinette we had in the last boat - it really frees up movement fore and aft below, esp with others there. I would go along with the thought that, if there's sufficient space that you may find such a dinette more practical than a 2x2 type of dinette. There is, however, as JRP noted a loss of table surface area. But overall it's a much cozier look and provides comfy "corners" for lounging.

Chuckle's mock up plan makes a lot of sense.
10-18-2008 12:19 PM
sailingdog I BELIEEEVE YOU....

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Something I've never had to do voice of experience.
A 20 dollar sheet of OSB is all it takes, and better than using REAL wood as firewood later.
10-18-2008 11:36 AM
chucklesR Something I've never had to do voice of experience.
A 20 dollar sheet of OSB is all it takes, and better than using REAL wood as firewood later.
10-18-2008 11:30 AM
sailingdog Beats building the thing and installing it...only to find out, you can't use it and have to tear it all out again.
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Hear, hear!

Sounds like a lot of extra work, but will likely save a lot of time/money in the long run.
10-18-2008 11:24 AM
JohnRPollard
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Originally Posted by chucklesR View Post
Drawings and measurements are one thing, but don't say diddly for comfort and useability. Take the time to make card board cut outs, or even plywood mock ups and give them a real fit test prior to committing.
Hear, hear!

Sounds like a lot of extra work, but will likely save a lot of time/money in the long run.
10-18-2008 11:10 AM
sailingdog Wise advice chuckles... What often looks good on paper doesn't work quite so well in the real world.
10-18-2008 10:32 AM
chucklesR My Grampian 26 had a tiny little dinette that sat two in comfort, four in agony. It had to be perched up on a different level than the sole to make it work. Two settee's would have been better.
My Hunter 31 had the U shaped dinette that about 6% of them came with. It was great as a drop down bed, scooting around the U to the back side (hull ward) sitting position was painful because the table didn't come out easy.
That's with a 11 foot beam - and I think beam makes all the difference is whether or not a dinette works.
My Gemini salon is essentially totally the dinette. It works because the table is a triple folder and gets out of the way but still the forward most (bottom of the U) is not reachable unless you go in and sit before the table gets loaded. Makes for useful storage, and when we have large crowds it comes in handy.

Drawings and measurements are one thing, but don't say diddly for comfort and useability. Take the time to make card board cut outs, or even plywood mock ups and give them a real fit test prior to committing.
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