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11-28-2005 06:54 PM
PhilMraz
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

The 1st part of your initial post also inquired about Hood Vektran sails, but I saw no other responses to that question. I bought a Vektran genoa for my previous boat and was very happy with it. One of the advantages is that the specified fabric weight can be lighter than the typical Dacron sail of the same strength. Just as with high tech laminated sails, there is a strenghth to weight advantage. Yet the Vektran was less money than an equivalent laminated sail and I am sure the densely woven Hood fabric would have lasted longer. I just didn''t keep the boat long enough to find out. -Phil
11-21-2005 08:11 PM
paulmcquillan
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

here''s part 2 to the story, in case anyone else finds themselves trying to decide which sail needs to be replaced.

This is the question that started this... “If you had to pick one of the two sails [mainsail or jib] to replace, which would you do first?”
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Getting the sailmaker down to the boat cleared things up. After looking at both sails, his opinion was that the main had to be replaced first. three reasons: more patching would be needed, there was no roach to the trailing edge of the existing main, and the existing sail was 1 1/2 feet short.

He made the new sail out of 9.3 oz HA dacron, 2+2 battens, and max PHRF roach. Goes to wx about 10 degrees higher than before. Faster at that new better AWA than the old sail ever was 10 degrees lower
05-17-2004 11:23 AM
paulmcquillan
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

http://www.cast-aways.com/
05-16-2004 06:30 AM
tommyt
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

Castaways? Don''t think I have seen them mentioned before. Did not find them in my first search attempt on the Web. Information please.
05-16-2004 12:16 AM
paulmcquillan
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

Thanks to all who provided ideas. We ultimately determined that the biggest immediate gain would be from replacing the jib with one about 140 to 145%.

Had two local sailmakers look at the main (and underway photos of both sails). Consenus is that the main could be recut, resulting in an additional three - four years of club racing life.

Through Castaways we found another owner who had an oversized genoa that had seen almost no use at all. That fit in the immediate budget,. Had the local loft recut it to 140%, add UV cover and luff tape. Found Castaway''s assesment of the great condition to be right on the mark.

The result is a wonderful increase in performance and balance. Helm is more neutral (perfectly slight wx helm) over a much broader... range 4 to 18 kts. Pointing abilty increased. Last race we were heading upwind at 23 degrees off the apparent wind (16 kts. aws).

In order to meet the "managable by family" requirment we added two types of rollers on the shrouds. Just above the lower spreaders we installed the wide Forespar delrin rollers.

Down at deck level, I hijacked a great idea from someone else. (I''d love to have come up with it first.) Turns out that small gray electrical conduit is both UV stable and blends in with the shroud color. Used 3/4 inch, labels cleaned off with little rubbing with acetone & a fast water rinse. We cut a slot with a table saw to slide a 10'' length over each outer rod. Can''t hardly notice the lower rollers. Best of all the sail comes around like greased lightning.

Results first time out....
TWA***TWS** Boat speed
060****** 8.5****** 5.80
071*******8.5****** 6.32* new jib
*
043******11.0******5.20
038***** 11.0***** 6.24* new jib
*
080********7.1******5.32
078********7.4***** 6.60 new jib

The boat also seems to heel less, and I''m just guessing that is due to the lower foot (instead of the yankee cut on the smaller existing jib).

10-2005 BTW we bought a brand new main sail in 2005, with the max roach allowed before penalty. That's given us the biggest speed improvement yet from any sail change we've made on the boat. The new main also lets the boat point 10 degrees higher at the same boat speed as before. My top three choices on sailcloth have changed over the course of this thread.
01-29-2004 08:45 AM
maestro
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

I have just purchased at 150% genoa Rolly Tasker Headsail for the sailwarehouse in CA. the prices were better than ANY other sail loft, and the sail fits my new CDI FF2 roller furler perfectly. The sail came quick and as soon as I put the boat back in the water, I''ll see how she does. I too am doing only coastal cruising and Sunday afternoon club racing. Worth a look at...

My girlfriend has had a Rolly Tasker 130% on her Islander Bahama for over 3 years and it had been and excellant sail. Still as crisp as when it was installed

01-28-2004 07:16 AM
AlCameron
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

A couple of years ago I replaced the OEM sails on a Catalina 30 I had with Rolly Taskers, went thru Dirk Sharland, National Sails out of Florida (even though at the time I lived in Washington State). We very much special ordered everything, and they made the sails to our specs. The boat I''ve got now has an older set of Rolly Taskers that I use as delivery sails, and they are still in very good shape. As long as you know all the dimensions of the sails and any patches you want, mail order seems to be the least expensive way to go. If you want customer service, you''ll have to pay a local loft a bit of a premium for their time and effort. But overall I''ve been very happy with the product Rolly Tasker turns out, and Dirk was able to get me my new sails in just over 30 days, which is not bad for mail order, and quicker than most lofts I''ve dealt with.
01-27-2004 10:34 AM
dalger
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

Hi:
I''m thinking of buying a Rolly Tasker 140 % genoa to replace a worn out sail on my Truant 37. I would be curious to hear more about anyone''s experience in dealing with them and the apparent quality of their product.
Thanks!
10-07-2003 03:16 PM
Sailormon6
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

Paul,

I don''t think any of us can judge the condition of your sails from the above description.

If you can absolutely only buy one new sail, and if the old mainsail is likely to fail, it seems to me that you have to replace the mainsail first. It''s no fun to sail a boat with a new 130% jib and no mainsail.

If you are only doing coastal cruising (so that, if the sail fails, you aren''t far from shelter), and, if you could afford to buy a second sail if absolutely necessary, then I would buy the jib and hope the mainsail holds up until Santa brings me a new mainsail.

At the moment, I''m a retiree putting a big chunk of my income into my son''s college expenses, and when I needed new sails, I bought inexpensive Rolly Tasker dacron sails, and she''s as fast as she was when my old North sails were new. We''re crossing the finish line ahead of boats that have to give us lots of handicap time. I don''t expect the Rolly Taskers will hold up as long as the Norths, but they''ll last at least until my son graduates, and probably a good deal longer.

You have lots of options, but you have to decide what works for you, considering all your circumstances.
09-26-2003 11:31 AM
paulmcquillan
Replacement sails - Hood''''s Vektran

Condition of the main...

ProspectiveSailmaker asked for digital photos taken from under the boom. In the meantime, here''s what we saw.

When viewed from below, the deepest part of the curve, going upwind in 9kts TWS, appears to run from the head of the sail to a point 48 to 50% of the sail''s foot length.

Viewd from below on the leward side, the main shows a fairly broad full area at least 1.5x the boom width. That area extends up to about one crosscut pannel above the second reef diamond. (It would be the third reef point if you counted the luff reef point at the mast).

Physical condition.
I had a local loft repair two holes (UV damage or flex damage?) just behind the leach. The patches are about 3" on a side. Also repaired the bottm leach cover where the topping lift rubbed through. That local loft was non-committal when I asked about remaining life.

The rest of the cover has somewhat deteriorated fibers at the places where the leach of the sail folds (stored on the boom).
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