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12-23-2008 01:49 PM
commishnuh
Cerification or Community lessons

I took ASA 101 and really enjoyed it. However, the Community lessons you mentioned sound like a terrific way to go. I met a fellow a few weeks ago who said he was able to sail the Abacos after telling them how many hours he had sailed. I would think, also, a letter from the Community group would also be acceptable.
08-30-2007 08:31 PM
ASACN Hey all,

I'm the Executive Director of the ASA, and wanted to throw in my 2 cents regarding some of the issues above.

Certification, and the education and practice that goes with it, can be extremely valuable. It also evidences that you have achieved a given level of proficiency, which is helpful when chartering.

However, learning to sail and PRACTICING should be one's goal. Some people get certified and then don't go sailing. That's not the point. Certification means little if you learn in a week and don't get out on the water for a year or two. That's why diving facilities, for example, don't just ask "Are you PADI or NAUI certified," but "When is the last time you dove?"

ASA and US Sailing standards are nearly identical. Both systems have many excellent schools and instructors, and each system can claim "bragging rights" over the other in certain respects. US Sailing is the official amateur racing body for sailing in the US. ASA has more sailing schools in its network and was the first to introduce keelboat standards to the U.S. But the most important consideration is the quality of the particular school and instructor, not "which system is better."

By the way, ASA does NOT require an ongoing membership to validate or utilize an ASA certification. First time students (ASA 101/Basic Keelboat) will get a one year ASA membership included as part of a one-time $39 certification fee that begins Oct.1, 2007. Most ASA schools will simply include this fee in the price of their 101 course, so new students may not even see it.
08-30-2007 12:04 PM
Melrna You don't need to keep your membership with ASA or US Sailing after you take the course. You have a log book with the appropriate stickers saying you have completed those courses. So far everyone accepts them from the charter companies.
08-29-2007 11:51 PM
Stryker72 I finished my Basic keelboat class tonight and got my light air rating. I will go for my medium air rating this next month. I have been having a blast with the sailing center and it was definitely the right choice for me.

Last saturday I met up with a few other sailor who were taking out a J/24, I asked them if they needed another crew and I tagged along. My first time flying the spinnaker! Good times!
08-19-2007 05:24 PM
GREGGWARREN
free sailing lessons

yes free location ga. s.c nc. on your boat trim tactics ,sheet arangement, just crusing .
08-10-2007 12:23 AM
arbarnhart I have not chartered yet, but I have done some queries at sailing centers located near me, near relatives or near places I would pay to visit about training and chartering. Several of them did not offer formal training, but every single one I contacted told me that certs are not required if you can demonstrate boating knowledge. I think I still want to get a few courses under my belt, but it does seem that getting experience through other means (cruising with friends) is no less valuable. I might go to a USCG license course instead of ASA as I may have an opportunity to do some for hire work in semi-reitirement in a few years, and that does requre their certification/license.
08-09-2007 11:56 PM
tenuki sailing center is the way to go, glad you chose it. US Sailing classes are pretty good too, like others have said, they are pretty much equiv. Once caveat regarding certs, most organizations require that you maintain membership to answer queries regarding your certs, so supposedly it's not valid unless you maintain membership. Kinda a scam if you ask me.
08-09-2007 09:12 PM
Stryker72 Well I start my 2 week class on Monday with the sailing center. I am very excited. I am hoping that this will also allow me to network and get on some bigger boats as 6string was saying.
08-09-2007 04:45 PM
6string Stryker72

I grew up sailing scows and other small boats. Sailed with a few guys out of Milwaukee and Port Washington on Keel boats.

The first time I chartered was in Bayfield at the Apostle Island, great place to go. All I had for them was a resume of a bunch of sailing. I did not have ASA certification. They never even went out on the boat to check me out to see if I knew port from starboard. Had a 30' boat for 4 days. Next year we went to a different charter company and got a 45' boat for charter in the same area. No one check me out, just sign the check. I have since been to the Caribbean twice and chartered with Footloose a Beneteau 473. they didn't check me out either.

I would recommend to take your lessons with Milwaukee Community Sailing Center. I would also show up at South Shore or Milwuakee Yacht Clubs on their race days and find some larger boats to get on. Try to get into a few across the Lake races. It looks good on your resume. You will get more experience on the water than just doing a week class at ASA and make a lot of friends. If you want to take some certification classes locally, check out Performance Yachts, I know they do some.

Good luck

Jeff
08-09-2007 12:05 PM
GySgt
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Originally Posted by Stryker72 View Post
By Challenge to you mean that I could go to the ASA and ask for a certification based of experience?

The schools in this area will let you challenge the course. At our club I think it is around 125.00 to take an instructor out and challenge the skills at whatever ASA level. I personally have not done that opting to take the course. Mainly because I can barely spell sailboat, let alone skipper one.

But whether it is US Sailing or ASA certs and skipper logs I have heard haveing them makes chartering much easier.
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