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03-12-2009 11:18 AM
southernwind cruise ships and the city of new york dump their trash in the ocean I have often wondered how much of the trash on the beach is the result of this.

I have tried to get some of these boats and asked for help finding them to fix them up and was chastised beyond belief for wanting to do so. In fact I am still looking for a 32' range project.
03-12-2009 11:15 AM
southernwind
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The real problem would probably be fuel & oil. The tanks need to be pumped out.
yea but fiberglass is listed as a hazardous material that is the real problem.
03-11-2009 05:12 PM
CaptKermie It is reported in our local newspaper that cigarette stubbs are the worst culprit, along with plastic bags and containers. Our little community of Ladner has kicked off a campaign to clean up our inner harbour and make it more business freindly which not only includes the removal of derelict boats but derelict sheds and wharfs too. Looking forward to a more touristy environment.
The False Creek area of Vancouver Harbour has also enacted laws to deter derelect boats and impose time limits. This clears the harbour for anchoring space to accommodate real sailors who are visiting Vancouver, previously new arrivals could not find a clear space to anchor with all the derelict boats hanging about. Long overdue laws. I cringe whenever I arrive at a new harbour only to find it overpopulated with junk heaps, makes it difficult for myself and others like me to find a decent anchorage. I have even arrived only to find the marina itself in near derelict shape, Port Browning comes to mind, a diamond in the rough, if only a pair of deep pockets could come along and make it a class act. Great harbours/marinas attract great tourist money, why deter the tourist $$ with derelict blights. Get rid of them.
03-09-2009 03:23 PM
OrioninHawaii There are two issues here. Trash dumped by those both on land and sea- we have regular community shore clean ups for that- As for derelicts and low income housing- it used to be a bigger problem here in Hawaii but now they are requiring yearly buoy runs and inspections. As far as abandoned boats- the state has started working on getting rid of them-
I can see that the huge coast line in Florida makes this problematic.
The perception of people when they hear I live on a boat is either I'm a wealthy "yachty"or "trailer trash"
Nothing in between...
03-09-2009 11:43 AM
sailingdog Of course, a lot of the trash is due to terrestrial garbage dumpers, and has nothing to do with boaters...Car bumpers, cars, car tires are all likely from terrestrial sources, not sailors. However, the idea of cleaning up our coast lines and water ways is an excellent one.
03-09-2009 09:37 AM
xsboats It really boils down to enforcing existing laws , not making new ones. You would not get away with parking an unregistered vehicle on a public street. It would be towed, fined , and put in a lot. Most of our derelics here go from a marina to anchored out when an owner no longer uses the boat and is trying keep costs down. They think the boat is worth what they have invested,so it sits while the lowball offers come in for it's sale. By the time they come to grips with the true value , the boat is worth nothing. The boat gets passed from one owner to another[read homeless] until ther is no paper trail of ownership.The powers that be will not go after the owner of record because they have record showing it sold. Controlling the problem starts with existing laws but should include a law requiring registration to be part of a sale. If you can't put it on the water legally , it shouldn't be there. The issue should not be where you can have your boat or how long but WHAT you can put on OUR water. The homeless don't inhabit old aircraft fuselages at the airport,aviators don't leave their discards where there is access. The powers that be need to not make it so impossible for us to discard old hulls properly so they don't fall into the hands of those who are giving us such a bad reputation and cause such restriction to our freedom on the water.
03-08-2009 09:50 PM
xort CForce

WE know that, but THEY don't know or don't care. We get lumped in to the same group.
03-08-2009 09:47 PM
CaptainForce It's probably important to note that the specific problems in Florida are not often arising from cruisers, but people using boats of marginal seaworthiness as low income housing. The harsh winters further north don't allow for this practice, but it has been common in Florida for years. It is diffricult to block this opportunity from the otherwise homeless, but at the same time it might be wise to distinguish them from the boating community. 'take care and joy, Aythya crew
03-08-2009 05:13 PM
PorFin xort,

I suspect you're right about the really serious vessels being stripped already. I've often been amazed that some of the ones I've seen are still afloat.
03-08-2009 04:51 PM
xort por

I suspect these abandonded boats are already stripped of anything of value.

The real problem would probably be fuel & oil. The tanks need to be pumped out.

It would not be anywhere as easy as a coastal cleanup picking up debris but it can be done.
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