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6 Days Ago 07:56 AM
guitarguy56
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by Yamsailor View Post
Not everyone can afford a fancy high-end sailboat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Beneteau, Jeanneau, and Catalina. They provide good quality for the price point. It is rather petty to criticize someone for purchasing a boat that they can afford. The experience of sailing is more important than the type of (sailing) vessel.
There's a quote that should be enshrined at the halls of Oyster, Swan, Hinckley, or other snobbish boat builders for high rollers!
1 Week Ago 05:41 AM
SimonV
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by robert sailor View Post
Wouldn't get too tied up on this topic. You don't get the best product at the lowest price, surely all of us know this. At the lowest price you might get a product that is good enough and I think that's the bar the lower cost production builders aim for. They deliver a high value product that meets the needs of the majority of their buyers and that's their key to success. Like everything else in life boats are built to a variety of standards as well as fit and finish. Some folks have the money to own the best but most don't but that's no reason to put down anyone's else's choices. It's the way the world goes around.
I agree even NASA outsources to the lowest bidder.
1 Week Ago 09:55 PM
Rob Patterson
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by Yamsailor View Post
Not everyone can afford a fancy high-end sailboat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Beneteau, Jeanneau, and Catalina. They provide good quality for the price point. It is rather petty to criticize someone for purchasing a boat that they can afford. The experience of sailing is more important than the type of (sailing) vessel.
I second that. My first boat was a 31-year old production boat and I loved it.
1 Week Ago 09:49 PM
Yamsailor
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Not everyone can afford a fancy high-end sailboat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Beneteau, Jeanneau, and Catalina. They provide good quality for the price point. It is rather petty to criticize someone for purchasing a boat that they can afford. The experience of sailing is more important than the type of (sailing) vessel.
1 Week Ago 09:39 PM
Rob Patterson
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

OK.
I found the limit.
I decided to move up to a big boat to live on and sail to interesting dive sites.
I looked at a lot of on-line ads.
I visited several marinas.
I went aboard some boats.
I saw a beautiful very well maintained hunter for a remarkably affordable price.
I saw some Beneteaus, Catalinas, a new Hanse and some others.
The one that fit the bill is an old Hans Christian 48T.
The difference is an aesthetic appeal.
The boat is beautiful in a way that makes me want to be there. Other people probably like the modern styling but I like the old boat.
It helps that it handles well in light air and really likes a blow. It tracks straight and doesn't round up with every little gust.
I have a little maintenance to do to make the outside just for me.
The limit for production boats is the charm. Nothing about sailing at all.
1 Week Ago 10:05 PM
mr_f
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I like my boat. I hope you all like your boat too.
1 Week Ago 09:32 PM
Ninefingers
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
That's why I drive a Maserati and sail a Hunter.
Maserati's are really wacky and unreliable cars, no?
1 Week Ago 08:57 PM
smackdaddy
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

That's why I drive a Maserati and sail a Hunter.
1 Week Ago 06:39 PM
robert sailor Wouldn't get too tied up on this topic. You don't get the best product at the lowest price, surely all of us know this. At the lowest price you might get a product that is good enough and I think that's the bar the lower cost production builders aim for. They deliver a high value product that meets the needs of the majority of their buyers and that's their key to success. Like everything else in life boats are built to a variety of standards as well as fit and finish. Some folks have the money to own the best but most don't but that's no reason to put down anyone's else's choices. It's the way the world goes around.
1 Week Ago 06:59 AM
Shockwave You're probably seeing the ring frames and longitudinals in the video. All boats have some sort of internal structure to carry the loads of the keel and spar.
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