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01-04-2005 03:56 AM
PCP
Building a FRG Boat.

Perhaps it is not a rational thing to do, but
If you take pride and pleasure in building a boat...go ahead and make YOUR boat.... pleasure is not a rational thing.

I would stay out of fiberglass and would prefer Marine Plywood and Epoxy. It fells and smells a lot better and you don''t need a mold.
Epoxy can give very low care and good durability to plywood.

Paulo
01-03-2005 11:57 AM
dman
Building a FRG Boat.

WOW sailingfool,you really let it fly with that one.I just thought about it,decided not to post it.He really should keep the trailer!
01-02-2005 06:06 PM
sailingfool
Building a FRG Boat.

spinnakercc

I apologize in advance for the cold shower -

Before you get too far along with your construction, sit down and calculate the cost of a set of new sails (say four), a set of full instruments, and say just the interior cushions - add these numbers up and you have a reasonable budget for purchasing a nice 25'', built by professionals, in the water, ready to go.

You can go ahead with your dream, but do so understanding that you will pour a lot of $$$ into a hole not even in the water, unlikely to ever be finished, that will end up worth probably a third or a half of the cost of the parts you have yet to buy...

My advice, drive the trailer to the dump, buy a sailboat, and go sailing.

Good luck.


01-02-2005 11:55 AM
PCP
Building a FRG Boat.

Lots of links regarding amateur boat building, materials, tools and boat plans:

http://www.boat-links.com/linklists/boatlink-02.html#projects

http://www.boat-links.com/linklists/boatlink-17.html#plans

http://www.boat-links.com/linklists/boatlink-43.html#tools

http://www.boat-links.com/linklists/boatlink-16.html#plans

http://www.boat-links.com/linklists/boatlink-06.html#supplies

I like the boat plans of these designers:

http://home.austarnet.com.au/eddierooms/study2.htm?agree=on

http://www.dickkoopmans.nl/uk/index.htm


Paulo


01-01-2005 05:36 AM
dman
Building a FRG Boat.

You are going through some real changes here,just yesterday it was being sold even if you had to piece it out.I suspect after this little pep talk and some time to cool down it will be back for sale because that is what your brain is telling you to do.Remember any ambitiuos person has bitten off more than they can chew at some time.I really do know what you are going through.Before you spend anymore money give it some time.Losing some money and learning a lesson is good,acceptable.Falling in love with a boat is not good and trying to spend your way out of a hole is worse.Try and find some inner peace before you continue ,it is your project,money and time not members here that will be working away.Hope to hear from you again and good luck with whatever road you choose.
12-31-2004 06:47 AM
spinnakercc
Building a FRG Boat.

Just talking about selling my boat, I decided to go out to the garage and look at her again. I have decided that i am going to keep her and finish her. I have finally gotten over the hurt of losing so much money in the original deal that it clears my mind to start working on her and realize my original dream. The inspiration of others on this board has also lifted the feeling that I don''t have time. I realize that I do not have time to do anything else either, but I make the time for some things. Besides looking at the price of new boats, used boats and those that have been wrecked...it clearly demonstrates that I have much more to start with right in my garage. At least I know how it will be built like you said. I am sure that I can finish it for much less than the price of most sailboats, new, used or wrecked, for the same size. Now, if there is anyone on this board who has a Roberts Adventurer 25, I would be interested in sharing ideas.
12-30-2004 10:40 AM
walt123
Building a FRG Boat.

I built a Cascade 29 between 74 and 76. Next to my house. At the time there were numerous boats being built in the Portland [Or] area and we shared information and ideas. The building was not difficult if you have the skills you stated. Having the time was the difficult part..making a living and having the income to purchase materials was the hardest. However it is a great feeling to launch and sail a boat you built. This is added to the benefit of your intimate knowledge of all "your" boat systems. That knowledge stood me well when I sailed around the world in the late 70s and Early 80s. Building a boat is an expensive undertaking but by using your labour to lower cost not prohitive considering the cost of purchasing a boat today. Good luck on what ever you decide and fair winds
12-30-2004 06:42 AM
spinnakercc
Building a FRG Boat.

Sorry, guys, I just thought that I would put it out there in case someone was interested. I agree with you all...the boat was to be finshed by a contractor, except he went bankrupt and this is all I got out of my $25,0000 deal. Sell it, well yes, I plan on it...even if I have to sell it piecemeal. Throw in $500.00...I don''t think so.
12-30-2004 05:15 AM
c25
Building a FRG Boat.

The posts above offer some good advice. If you''d like to get a better idea of what your up against look into the following books:

>Boat Strength by Dave Gerr (all materials)

>The Nature of Boats by Dave Gerr (all materials, many types of boats)

>Backyard Boat Building by George Buehler (wood & steel)

>From a Bare Hull by Ferenc Mate

>This Old Boat by Don Casey

>Wooden Boats by Michael Ruhlman (for the spirit, great book)

>The Fiberglass Boat Repair Manual by Alan Vaitses

>Boatowner''s Mechanical & Electrical Manual by Nigel Calder (for all systems...the right way)

>check out http://www.devlinboat.com/ Sam Devlin is a real artist in stitch & glue/cold-molded boats. He has kits, study plans, videos....

If you do this I''d definitely spend some time looking for vendors of materials at better prices. I picked up 100'' spools of marine wire from Hamilton Marine in Maine for about half(including shipping) what BoatUS/West Marine charges. Jamestown Distributors is a good source for various epoxies & glass at better prices than ''West System'' materials from any source. Defender Marine is a good source. Garhauer for rigging..the list goes on...including Sailnet.

>This guy http://www.triton381.com/ has a site where he gutted & refit a Triton...he also has a message board where other refitters hang out. He''s waaay upside down in what he has in the boat vs what it would sell for...but it''s a labor of love...and he''s starting another.

If you want to start from stratch(whether that be a kit or any stick of wood in your garage after reading Buehler''s book) go for it. Another option that may have good timing is what others have mentioned...combine the thought of 1)getting lots of equipment and a hull/deck in an assembled boat for less than the cost of individual parts and 2) the hundreds/thousands of salvage boats available in Florida due to recent weather and you may have a great opportunity to just about start from scratch and end up with quite a boat. There has to be some very desirable boats available at the auctions & I''d guess (?) the prices have to be a bit lower due to the volume of them available.

>http://www.insalvage.com/

>http://www.usauctions.com

Whether you''re building from scratch or rebuilding from salvage the most important concern is your time & desire to finish what you started. For some folks, building the boat is just a bump in the road to where they''re going...Moitessier had his steel boat assembled by a local boiler-maker, grabbed a telephone pole for a mast & went around the world...the boat is still sailing some 30 years later. Isolated event? maybe, but unwavering desire is the key to doing almost anything.
12-29-2004 07:13 PM
Sasha_V
Building a FRG Boat.

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