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|05-20-2009 12:18 PM|
I do 90%+ day sailing on my Pearson 26 on the Potomac R. where it gets wide S. of Mt. Vernon/Mason Neck. I motor (15hp Merc 2 stroke) about 30-60 mins. to get out the channel and back. Once I'm out it's then 90% sailing.
I did a 200 NM round trip last fall to the mouth of the Potomac/Ches. Bay & back, and was motoring about 2/3 of the time due to wind, tides, etc.
I'm singlehanding 75+% of the time.
|05-18-2009 10:24 AM|
This is going to sound funny, but there was a time when I would sail - no matter what. I didn't care if the boat was just sitting there still, it was a sailboat and we were going to get our nickle out of our time on it.
Times changed for us - especially when we went to live aboard. I had nothing to prove. In fact, there were many times (and still are) where the wind is great and we still motor. I remember reading All In The Same Boat by Tom Neale. He said something in there about most live aboards never sailing to weather (and always motoring). I have come to agree with that. Now in full disclosure, he was always on a motor sailor which is not exactly known for its fine sailing abilities... but I still agree. We would do the same and at times, still do.
Funny thing now is that my new boat seems to perform its best when close hauled. I enjoy putting the rail in the water sometimes and getting the thrill of zipping around. But typically, with the kids down below playing or Kris cooking something - I will fall off or crank up the engine without remorse. I could care less what anyone else thinks and I am out there to have fun and make it enjoyable FOR EVERYONE!!
I love many of them. In fact, one of my most favorite boats in teh world is the Nordhavn (as many people here know). We came EXTREMELY close to buying one and it is only by crazy chance we ended up in a sailboat again. At the time, we had totally decided against sailing.
Trawlers have many benefits: They motor better than the typical sailboat, most of them can make better time, they are extremely efficient (depending on the trawler), and they have vastly more useable living space (one of our key reasons for considering them). If you have not been down inside a well founded trawler like a nordhavn or maybe a Kadey-Krogen or Cape Horn, do yourself a favor and take a look at them sometime. They are really outstanding. But all trawlers have one vital flaw that many of us have an issue getting over: you are 100% dependent on a motor. Motors fail, and they always seem to fail at the most inapprorpiate time. At least with a sailboat when 1000 miles out at sea, you can wait for the wind. And how many of us have not had to sail back into the marina? I have. It is a tough trade off to come to grips with.
So anyways, back to motoring in a sailboat, I have no taboo against it. I will do whichever one makes the most sense at the time and is the most comfortable. But I can certainly see how other's opinions may vary.
|05-18-2009 09:27 AM|
|05-17-2009 04:27 PM|
|MoonSailer||Yes Sawingknots the sailboat has been passed by powerboats and trains and planes and automobiles. Enjoy motoring all you desire!!!! My point is that if you find yourself enjoying motoring most of the time why not get a powerboat??? Almost any powerboat will outrun a sailboat!!!! And that stick in the middle can prevent you from going under bridges to explore new waters!!! I really don't care if every sailer keeps on their sail covers and motor 100% of the time. All is good. On rainy days I even those in powerboats all warm and dry in their pilothouses On hot windless days I envy the air conditioed pilot houses. If I didn't love sailing I'd own a trawler or a houseboat.|
|05-17-2009 09:58 AM|
|sawingknots||do you know any sailors who use modern medicines rather than herbs,roots etc,I figure if I have to put up with the disavantages of progress I may as well reap the advantages too,I motor whenever it suits my mood and circumstances|
|05-17-2009 08:39 AM|
|MoonSailer||Yep been there done that!!! It sucks to have to motor all day to get back to the dock so that you can go to work!!! We all have had to motor at times. I guess my point is that a sailboat's purpose is sailing. If you want to go somewhere a sailboat is not a great option. Most of the time I want to "go sailing" and my plans are made according to wind conditions. Drifting along bird watching is fun as is screaming along with the rail buried. I find it almost as much fun sailing at 2-3 knots as at hull speed. But all is good..enjoy.|
|05-17-2009 08:32 AM|
|CaptainForce||As posted earlier, I do a lot of motoring at between 6.5 & 7 knots when it pleases me. What would a trawler do for me? I still love to sail when it pleases me. Shouldn't the boat being doing best when it serves the pleasure of the captain? I see many sailboats sailing, but I've never seen a trawler trawling! 'take care and joy, Aythya crew|
|05-17-2009 01:12 AM|
|05-16-2009 07:31 PM|
|MoonSailer||When cruising isn't staying at anchor an option on windless days??? I have seen many sailboats motoring on perfectly good sailing days. But there is nothing wrong with anything!!!! But if you find yourself motoring a lot you might consider a trawler!!! When I finally get to go long term cruising I will try to sail with the wind aft of the mast 10-15 knots. Given the choice of staying at anchor or motoring for hours I will probably stay at anchor. But that is just me. I have considered buying a trawler. There are advantages.|
|05-16-2009 05:22 PM|
No for day sailing when you are not trying to get anywhere it is a total different story.
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