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Topic Review (Newest First)
10-27-2009 04:25 PM
smackdaddy Heh-heh. I don't see how that boat is still in the water. Them's some Big Freakin' Sails.
10-27-2009 04:17 PM
Stillraining COOL!!

Cant wait to give it a try myself.

But these guys had the bragging rights on being nervous during pole handling..
10-27-2009 03:37 PM
smackdaddy Very cool Nauti! I look forward to tossing up my own chute soon.
10-27-2009 03:29 PM
zz4gta
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Originally Posted by NautiG View Post
John,
The admiral recently declared the Chesapeake her arch nemesis. She's good about going sailing with me cause she knows how much I enjoy it. But she gets seasick in conditions when the sailing just starts to get fun. I'm going to try to do more river sailing with her on the Rappahanock, so I can get some good sailing in with her aboard. But it looks like I'm going to continue to primarily single hand the boat.

Scott
Gemini Catamaran Split Decision
Bonine works wonders, just slip one in her ice tea.
10-27-2009 03:00 PM
NautiG John,

What I have right now is a climbing harness which I suppose is meant to be worn around your legs and waist, but fits well also around my arms and chest. It came with a six foot webbed tether which I extended about two feet with some line. If I tie it directly to the spinnaker hook on the mast, I can reach from the cockpit to the bow.

I know it's not the ideal set up, but it's what I have lying around for free. I'll look for a quick release shackle. If I could find a way to release if I were being dragged, I would be sure to use the harness consistently.

The admiral recently declared the Chesapeake her arch nemesis. She's good about going sailing with me cause she knows how much I enjoy it. But she gets seasick in conditions when the sailing just starts to get fun. I'm going to try to do more river sailing with her on the Rappahanock, so I can get some good sailing in with her aboard. But it looks like I'm going to continue to primarily single hand the boat.

Scott
Gemini Catamaran Split Decision
10-27-2009 02:41 PM
JohnRPollard
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SD, I also tried setting up some jack lines for the first time. The best I could figure out was tying to the mast where the spinnaker pole hooks in about six feet up. This kept my tether from tangling too bad on hand holds etc on the deck, allowed me to clip on in the cockpit, and reach the bow.

I still would be dragged along overboard if I fell near the mast. I'm still not sure of the wisdom of the jacklines. I'm a good swimmer and often wear a wetsuit while single handing. I feel like I'd have a fighting chance if I went over a mile or two from shore.

On the other hand, if I'm clipped in and fall over, I could be dragged for miles and miles. My boat really does sail itself on a reach for hours at a time sometimes.

Scott
Gemini Catamaran Split Decision
Scott,

The jacklines should not run all the way aft. They should stop at a distance forward of the stern that is no less than the length of your tether.

Also, it's best to have a quick release on the tether where it attaches to the harness. That way you can "let go" if circumstances demand it (for instance, if you're being drowned). The quick release needs to be a "high load" version, i.e. one that can still be released while under tremendous pressure/load.
10-27-2009 02:23 PM
NautiG Thanks zz, I'll try that stuff next time I get a chance (Hopefully again this fall). I really didn't know what to do with the pole. I'll make sure to keep it perpendicular to the wind and try adjusting its height while trimming the lines.

Thanks John for the encouragement!

SD, I also tried setting up some jack lines for the first time. The best I could figure out was tying to the mast where the spinnaker pole hooks in about six feet up. This kept my tether from tangling too bad on hand holds etc on the deck, allowed me to clip on in the cockpit, and reach the bow.

I still would be dragged along overboard if I fell near the mast. I'm still not sure of the wisdom of the jacklines. I'm a good swimmer and often wear a wetsuit while single handing. I feel like I'd have a fighting chance if I went over a mile or two from shore.

On the other hand, if I'm clipped in and fall over, I could be dragged for miles and miles. My boat really does sail itself on a reach for hours at a time sometimes.

Scott
Gemini Catamaran Split Decision
10-27-2009 09:45 AM
zz4gta You asked for it...

For starters, Keep the pole perpendicular to the breeze.
Ease the sheet until the luff curls/breaks, if it breaks high move the pole up, if it breaks low, move the pole down.
For best speed the sheet should be constantly trimmed/eased to just hold a curl at the luff.
Pole tip height, try to keep the clews even.

Pretty chute.
10-27-2009 09:22 AM
JohnRPollard Nauti,

Very nice. Glad you had fun with it.

While the pole may have seemed superfluous in the light air, I think you'll find it useful for maintaining good trim, taming oscillation, and carrying the sail through a larger wind angle (rather than just DDW) as the wind builds.

At least, that's my experience on monohulls.
10-27-2009 08:29 AM
sailingdog The advantage of using a spinnaker or genoa down wind is that the boat is being PULLED by the sail, rather than pushed by it, as happens with the main. This means that the boat will track far better... since the center of effort is FORWARD of the center of lateral resistance. Of course, it also means that if you fall off...you're going to be left behind unless someone is aboard to turn the boat around.
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