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|11-18-2009 08:27 PM|
|CaptainForce||Remember, you don't need to take huge steps.....Get the boat in a slip that has good access to daysailing. After gaining that experience take a few short cruises. We cruise with the seasons on the East Coast,- there is no downside! 'take care and joy, Aythya crew|
|11-18-2009 06:13 PM|
Don't discount any of the advice offered...
It is all a different part of what you will experience.
Racing is not bad, if you are new to sailing and want to learn fast:
* Need to claw off a lee shore in bad weather?
* Need to get the chute down fast?
* Want to make good time to the next port to beat weather or night?
* Want to learn differnt ways to sail many boats?
You will learn these things better and faster sailing on multiple race boats. I hate racing, but I know how. It is VITAL that a cruiser know how to ring every knot out of their boat, even if they don't often choose to.
Buy dingy and sell it in the fall. Something with a jib (Precision 15, Albacor) that you can go out and push to the edge of the envelope. You will get back what you paid for it and learn a ton about how a bigger boat will handle conditions you hope to never see. I am amazed how many big boat sailors freeze up when the engine fails, because they never learned how to sail without a motor. I've actually sailed into my slip twice (different boats - engine failures).
Have fun and don't focus on equipment until you learn more.
|11-18-2009 04:21 PM|
What do you mean it isn't all margaritas and sunsets? That is what we signed up for!
|11-18-2009 03:55 PM|
Thanks for all the advice guys!
wind_magic - I DO realize cruising isn't all margaritas and sunsets. I've read a few books (by L. & L. Pardy and by Annie Hill) - so I realize (at a purely logical level) the amount of comforts being given up. But obviously just "pretending" to do it in your house isn't quite the same.
mikeandrebecca - Wow, that's quite an endorsement. Thanks! (Are you sure you don't own the company? )
braidmike - Yeah, that's what I figured would be the best way to learn. It would just suck to jump-in feet-first (what other way is there really?) and then after a month or 2 or 6 decide that you want out. And yeah, the money thing can be scary - it's so hard to get a realistic picture of what's needed - I read stories of people out sailing for years on $1000/month, and others saying they need $4000/month. Obviously comfort-level has something to do with that (ie: refrigeration, water makers, boat size, etc.), as well as how handy you are (ie: scraping and painting your own hull, etc.).
SVAuspicious - Unfortunately, I have ZERO interest in racing. But I get what you're saying... just get out there and start "doing".
I realize there's no perfect way to go about it, no way to know *for sure* how much I'd like it, no way to learn *everything* I'd need/want to know. Well, at least I'm young and single and the "spirit of adventure" hasn't been squashed out of me yet!
|11-18-2009 11:53 AM|
Originally Posted by GregX999 View Post
I think wind_magic overstates things a good bit. Don't stress.
For sailing, about the best you can do is find someone else who needs racing crew. You will learn more that way than any other.
Navigation can be learned at USCG Auxiliary classes or books or on-line courses like Starpath offers.
Operation comes with the territory.
Repair skills (as opposed to resources) can come easily from pitching in as the race boat you crew on prepares for the season and needs help getting in the water.
Provisioning is easiest. People eat everywhere in the world. Keep an open mind and you can always eat.
The longest passages I can think of are in the South Pacific and rarely exceed a month. The longest hop I took crossing the Atlantic was three weeks. You can practice at home -- think about what you want to eat for a week and buy all the food at once (refrigerator is allowed -- most although not all cruisers do have refrigeration) and eat from that. Push to two weeks and do it again. You'll find it isn't hard at all.
|11-18-2009 11:38 AM|
|braidmike||One more: Get used to thinking in 'Boatbucks', usually abreviated '$BB'. I think the current conversion factor is 1000US$=1$BB. This represents the minimum outlay for anything that touches the marine environment. I'm not sure who coined the term, but can attest to it's accuracy!|
|11-18-2009 05:13 AM|
Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
|11-18-2009 04:46 AM|
Originally Posted by braidmike View Post
|11-18-2009 03:16 AM|
Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
I was in the same place it sounds like you are about 5 or 6 years ago. Not sure I would recomend my approach, but my partner and I just started researching everything on the net, took a couple classes, bought a boat that seemed to have our name on it, and hope to start our circumnavigation next fall. We followed advice that resonated, ignored what didn't, made a few mistakes, all in all: having a great time! For us, it has been the experience of actually 'doing it' that is the best teacher. The ASA class we took was fun, but I probably learn ten times as much when actually out on the water in our boat. Everyone learns diferently, for us it seems best to jump in & figure it out as we go. FWIW
|11-17-2009 08:45 PM|
My wife and I took Offshore Sailing's Fast Track to Cruising course last Christmas (we did it in St. Petersburg, FL). Prior to that time neither one of us had sailed anything more than a Laser! Before, and during the course, we had doubts about them being able to cover everything that they promised. Well, they did, and it was excellent! Since completing that course we sold our house, sold all our crap, bought a catamaran and lived on it all summer. We just sold our business and will be taking off to cruise in the Caribbean next year. As you might have guessed, we are big fans of offshore sailing and their courses!
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