|Topic Review (Newest First)|
|03-03-2006 01:12 AM|
|Mallory44||Join the tayana owners association. I did when I was considering the purchase of a tayana 37 and I got 100s of emails on every possible subject. Best resource for anyone thinking about buying one.|
|03-02-2006 12:58 PM|
|Allan C&C Less||
I second the motion!!!!!!
I agree with SFool...actually he's no fool...he's wise!
I would get 2 surveys as well no matter how old the boat!!! I have seen a boat showing 300hrs on the motor. And having carefully inspected it realized this was not the case! The gage was new or wasn't working. Engine re-builds are very expensive!!!!
I would also nose around the docks where this boat is located and chat with her neighbours and see what their opinion of the owners are as well as the boat.Most folks like having their opinions asked for.Also with such an old vessel I would want to carefully inspect the rigging and sails myself.
Do yourself a big favour...ask a friend who you respect for a name of a good surveyor. There are lots out there that aren't thorough and don't give a damn. And NEVER us the owners/brokers surveyor!!!!!
Fair winds, Allan
|02-23-2006 10:37 AM|
"Now to find a surveyor."
that should be two surveyors. You will find that most marine surveyors provide only a general observation about the condition of a marine diesel. You should hire an engine surveyor to determine the condition of the engine - especially including a compression test. For some engines such tests may be somewhat invasive and the seller may balk at having the engine pooked and prodded, but this is the only way to know what you are buying.
Remember that sellers know thier boats inside and out. What do you think happens most often when an owner recognizes, or is advised, that a marine diesel faces rebuilding? Faced with a $10K or more expense, many owners decide - sell the boat to an unsuspecting buyer.
Obviously most boats on the market have perfectly servicable engines. But some of them are on the market BECAUSE they face engine replacement.
Note also that a sea trial may be adequate only to recognize a seriously failing engine. For example, diifficulty starting a cold engine can indicate low compression can With a sea trial scheduled, the owner gets to the boat first, warms up the engine, and presto, it'll start on the first turn of the key...
Its funny how buyers spending 100s of thousands hesitate to spend $250 to cover the biggest risk of the boat purchase. I know, been there and done that, to the tune of $13,000.
|02-23-2006 07:16 AM|
|bradphoto||Thanks for the reply.Having viewed the boat she has certainly been well maintained by the previous owners and shows very few of the 27 years since she was built. Now to find a surveyor.|
|02-18-2006 09:59 AM|
RE: "could anyone suggest other problems they may have come across". In a boat thats 27 years old, everything and anything in the boat could be a problem. What is not a problem depends on how good a jobs the original designer and builder did, and how conscientious and dilengent the owners have been over the years. You can and should not assume anything. The tanks being replaced is a good example - if you mean water tanks, that's an interesting one because they would rarely make a list of likely repairs. Your reference to 'glass decks' prapoobably means not-teak, a plus only in the sense that teak deacks swould cause an automatic toss-out.
Good luck on this, and the best way to make your own luck is through the services of an expert, demanding marine surveyor and an engine surveyor.
|02-17-2006 07:44 PM|
I am looking at the moment at a tayana 37 for sale which is described as and looks from the photographs to be in excelent condition. She is a '79 mk 2 model with glass decks and an old volvo md17 engine. All the tanks have been replaced she seems well equiped. Apart from the usual chainplate problems associated with tayana's could anyone suggest other problems they may have come across. I am flying a distance to view her over the weekend. best regards and thanks. andrew.