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01-18-2010 05:23 PM
sailingdog Lostatsi—

You'd be better off starting your own thread and posting what information about what kind of boat and what kind of sailing you're looking to do there rather than hijacking sharp's thread.
01-18-2010 02:42 PM
lostatsi Thanks so much. Looking into courses at San Diego, ordered the Sailing Funds. book. Would like to hear any comments on boat recomendations. BTW am I posting in the correct forum?
01-17-2010 06:56 PM
bljones sharps, you're doing fine. keep asking questions, you haven't asked a dumb one yet. The only way to learn is to ask about what you don't know, and seek confirmation that what you think you know is actually what you really know, know what I mean?
01-17-2010 05:46 PM
sharps4590 Thanks again. No, I wasn't fretting....there's just so much more I don't know than I do!

Vic
01-17-2010 03:38 PM
poltergeist
Well, it depends ...

A lot depends on the wind direction that day.

Some days, you'll have a refreshing beat up the lake close-hauled, followed by a slow dead run to get back. Other days, you might have a nice beam reach both ways ... great when it happens. :-)

When you get tired of running slowly before the wind, you get to learn how to fly a spinnaker ... that'll keep you busy for a while.

Don't fret about it (I'm sure you're not, really). Man, I remember a hot, humid July day when the wind dropped to nothing in mid-afternoon and it took me two long, sweaty hours downwind to get home. Went through all my gatorade. Almost enough to convince me to buy a trolling motor to push the Scot. ALMOST enough. :-)

Kurt
01-17-2010 01:02 PM
sharps4590 Thanks poletgeist...I'm grateful.

So there's no way to sail downwind to increase speed? It's one of the things we're just stuck with? Reason I ask is that on most of the little lakes I'll be sailing it's gonna be out with the wind one way and back the other. One way is gonna be really slow. Or, is that something nearly everyone is up against? Be easy with me...I am new!!!

Vic
01-17-2010 12:23 PM
poltergeist Your recollection on sailing dead downwind is correct. Most boats go measurably faster on a broad reach ... check your sailing books for a definition or explanation.

A "class association" is owners of one-design boats, banded together to promote their particular boat, support one another and race against one another. (That's not a dictionary definition, by the way.) So I own a Flying Scot, manufactured by Flying Scot Inc. Our class association is Flying Scot Sailing Association. With most one-design classes, the association supports the builder and vice versa.

"Bareboating" is chartering a bare boat ... you provide the crew (no paid skipper or crew) and provisions.

Kurt
01-17-2010 11:50 AM
sharps4590 Boy.....from all the info you fella's gave me and just rummaging around the internet I think I'm more confused than before!!! Sure has been fun and educational tho! I even have a couple lines on boats!

I have a question, if I may post it here. I remember back when I sailed Rich's little boat that sailing with the wind it was pretty slow going. Only as fast as the wind was blowing if I remember correctly. Is there a way to sail diagonally with the wind that is similar to sailing diagonally into the wind, ie, faster? I don't know if I'm even wording the question correctly....

Walt, what is a "class organization"? I don't know if we have those in the Ozarks.

EE.....could you define "bareboating"? I couldn't find a reference to it.

Vic
01-16-2010 12:28 AM
Waltthesalt You're right on target for the boat to meet your needs. Swing keel is as good even better than a dagger board. Size depends on the space you need. Don't terrorize you spouse with a boat aimed at racing. Perhaps the old standard Lightning is an open racer that's also a family boat. Look for a boat that has a class organization in your area. Besides comraderie, lotsa' advice they usually have outings ans social events, great new sailers. For small cabin trailersailers there's always the Catalina 22. They've been in production for decades, found nearly everywhere and have a strong class organization. The old O'day Mariner/Osprey was a great small cuddy cabin family boat.
01-15-2010 10:51 PM
EETurner
Excellent Small Boat Resource

And more... Small Craft Advisor is a bi-monthly magazine that has featured small, trailer capable sail boats for the past 10 years. The current news stand issue recaps the editors favorite 12 boats of 60 previously reviewed and of course their all time favorite is - "that depends...". Most all are production boats with various hull construction, rig configurations, and some are even positive flotation. I found the magazine at West Marine, but if you can't find it they have a website at Small Craft Advisor - Small Craft Advisor. Also, not only is 'no boat too small', but I imagine that as you build experience and maybe take a class if needed, the land locked sailing will lead to some bareboating. I usually sail Lake Ray Hubbard outside of Dallas on our '83 Tanzer 27, but regularly bareboat Galveston Bay, and have bareboated San Francisco Bay, Tampa Bay, and Marina Del Ray to Catalina for 8 nights. My experiences are not impressive for this site, but it's real growth for me and has been a great time. Welcome to the site and God bless.
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