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3 Days Ago 02:32 AM
GTOM
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

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Originally Posted by cb32863 View Post
While I am not sure about taking a First 18 where you want to go or even my boat, a First 235 but, a 235 will give you a nice little pocket cruiser that you can trailer. Though, getting the mast up will require work so doing that for a day sail really is not practical.
I am definitely looking at the "little longer" solutions as well. Besides the bargain-basement price of the first 18's (sometimes below 3k$ ) their light weight was the argument. One step up then I need to switch to a new car (my Octavia takes 1400kg/3086lbs, which is definitely short for the 1.3ton 235 + a ~quarter ton lightweight trailer) and get a "BE" class drivers licence. Neither options are off the table, but needs a bit of thinkering...
3 Days Ago 11:10 PM
Arcb
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

Check this out.

3 Days Ago 09:12 PM
cb32863
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

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Originally Posted by GTOM View Post
yeah, I keep searching a french review on the first 18, which I am unable to find: "little boat, little problems" it says - cheap repairs, cheap upkeep, smaller sails to buy, even exempt from the Greek Cruising Tax - if I ever get there...

I completely understand, that I won't do a circumnavigation in a 20' vessel even though that's not completely unheard of...
While I am not sure about taking a First 18 where you want to go or even my boat, a First 235 but, a 235 will give you a nice little pocket cruiser that you can trailer. Though, getting the mast up will require work so doing that for a day sail really is not practical.
3 Days Ago 08:03 PM
GTOM
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

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20 minutes in and 20 minutes out for me, 25 if you include the 1 mile drive to the boat launch.

Last week end I was solo, got a snag when one of the lazy Jack's got snagged in my throat halyard block while reefing. My solution? Threw my 5 lb anchor over the side, dropped the mast, pried out the snag with a screw driver, restepped mast, continued sailing. It was awesome. I should have filmed it.

yeah, I keep searching a french review on the first 18, which I am unable to find: "little boat, little problems" it says - cheap repairs, cheap upkeep, smaller sails to buy, even exempt from the Greek Cruising Tax - if I ever get there...

I completely understand, that I won't do a circumnavigation in a 20' vessel even though that's not completely unheard of...
3 Days Ago 03:56 PM
Arcb
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

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Originally Posted by SHNOOL View Post
Decide if launching/retrieving your boat every time you sail is acceptable in whatever boat you pick. If it is, GREAT, you are sailing! I found anything over 18 feet to be too much work to sail for a day sail, but that is just me...
20 minutes in and 20 minutes out for me, 25 if you include the 1 mile drive to the boat launch.

Last week end I was solo, got a snag when one of the lazy Jack's got snagged in my throat halyard block while reefing. My solution? Threw my 5 lb anchor over the side, dropped the mast, pried out the snag with a screw driver, restepped mast, continued sailing. It was awesome. I should have filmed it.

4 Days Ago 03:15 PM
SHNOOL
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

Always interested in peoples thought processes. Certainly start out with whatever you can. Decide if launching/retrieving your boat every time you sail is acceptable in whatever boat you pick. If it is, GREAT, you are sailing! I found anything over 18 feet to be too much work to sail for a day sail, but that is just me... It worked out to be about 3 hours of work on my 22 footer, between launching and retrieving. So if you add 8 hours of sailing to that day, it makes for a long (fun) day. Now add foul weather to that. Not so fun. Nothing like unstepping a mast in 30 knot gusts, downpours, and lightning. Just saying. NOT that I ever did it

As for an 18 footer for whatever size family... probably great for a day, maybe longer if you get along REAL well. But think of it is camping where you can never get out of the tent for long periods of time. Some people are great with it, others, well, not so much.

By the way, nice 7 year old thread revival.. still relevant of course.
4 Days Ago 03:13 PM
Arcb
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

I have no experience with First 18's but we traded in our big boat for a trailer sailer for pretty well exactly the reasons you stated above. We are 3 on a 21 footer, but our boat is probably smaller than a First 18, certainly lighter displacement (only 900 lbs). So far we've been very happy with the choice.

We haven't made any offshore hops, but for Rivers, canals, lakes and Bays I have confidence in the boat. We have no head on board, which limits our range a little bit.

I think experience/attitude might play a factor, some folks seem uneasy on small boats on big water, but other folks don't seem to pay it much attention.

We're (wife, 3 y.o. and myself) are heading out on a 16 day coastal cruise in a couple of weeks. We've figured out that for us, bringing a tent makes a big difference. We can all sleep on board no problem, but prefer the comfort of a 4 man tent when we can swing it.
4 Days Ago 02:20 PM
GTOM
Re: best trailerable blue water cruiser

Interesting topic. Unfortunately I live 400miles from the sea, but there are plenty of interesting lakes within 1 hour driving distance.
This gives me 4 alternatives:
1. I sail only on lakes, forget the Ocean = boooring
2. I sail only on the Ocean but be limited to ~3weeks a year = desperate
3. Buy, maintain and berth 2 boats = bankrupt

I'd like to take option #4, and get a small, trailerable boat that supports my little family on coastal day cruising while on holidays, maybe shorter (<100NM) passages. And of course countless weekends on different lakes. I know, a car ride+ferry costs a bit, but far from paying two berths/charter+a flight ticket.

My actual candidate is a Beneteau First 18. Any thoughts on it? I'd sail it in the Med and the Canaries (between the two I would take the ferry)
02-05-2010 01:22 PM
nissantwa
Trailerable

Folks around my neighborhood trailer their Catalina 27's to Huntington lake for weekend sailing. Lots of stout stuff out there under 27'. There's a Catalina 25 on local craigslist for $2,300. (not saying these are bluewater cruisers, however at least one Catalina 27 has circumnavigated.) One note of caution. The trailers are a lot harder to find than the boats. If you could find a trailer first, then you can shop bargain in-water boats from owners tired of slip fees. Otherwise, try to get a boat/trailer combo. Do not buy the boat first and then go looking for a trailer.
02-05-2010 01:01 PM
2Gringos Have you looked at the WETA? Looks like a really fun garage boat.

Weta Marine - High Performance Family Trimarans

I'd probably buy one, but we are saving our cash for a Gemini..

we HAVE to cruise the Caribbean..
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