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04-19-2010 05:04 PM
copacabana Thanks for the 303 link. I actually found it on my own, but they don't have a distributer in Brazil and the site doesn't say what the magic ingredient is. So, I'm back to square one ...
04-19-2010 04:54 PM
SanDiegoChip We are using WEBLON REGATTA for our dodger\bimini.
• Width: 62".
• Weight: 13 oz. per square yard.
• Warranty: 8 years.
We chose a whit top and sand inside. We will be in Central America and think the vinyl is a good choice. We will be adding some cones for the back stay and zipper flaps for the top back stay zippers for rain protection on the bimini. The Dodger is already under contract.
Chip

04-19-2010 04:44 PM
sailingdog
Quote:
Originally Posted by copacabana View Post
OK Sunbrella. Thanks for the information. And now to track down this mysterious 303 stuff .... Anyone??
HERE
04-19-2010 04:34 PM
Sunbrella Google "303 Products". We can't provide the URL because of forum policy with regards to business entities.

And thanks for the welcome.

Sunbrella Customer Service
04-19-2010 02:40 PM
copacabana OK Sunbrella. Thanks for the information. And now to track down this mysterious 303 stuff .... Anyone??
04-19-2010 02:29 PM
smackdaddy Now this is very cool having the manufacturer chime in on questions. Good on ya, SB!
04-19-2010 02:28 PM
Sunbrella Copacabana, all three versions of Sunbrella should be available. If you know the style number (assuming your local dealer hasn't renumbered it) a number that starts with 84xx or 84xxx will be Plus. 94xx is Supreme (and you could identify it by the flocked side). Numbers in 46xx, 60xx and 80xxx are standard Sunbrella in 46", 60" and 80" widths.

As to the make up of 303, we cannot say. It does appear they ship internationally, but we recommend you contact them directly for confirmation.

Sunbrella Customer Service
04-19-2010 02:09 PM
copacabana Sunbrella, thanks for the clarification. Nothing like getting it from the horse's mouth, so to speak. I'm not sure which Sunbrella I am being offered here in Brazil (regular, Plus or Supreme), but I'll try to find out. I'll be using it for my cockpit enclosure and the overhead (permanent) sun/rain protection between the hard dodger and the targa. It stays up 24/7, year in, year out. The cloth I have today is fine, but no longer waterproof (It is not Sunbrella but a similar product made by Alpargatas called 'Sempre-viva'). I'm thinking of paying the premium for Sunbrella in the hopes it lasts longer than the one I'm using now. My main concern is that it remain waterproof (no drips in the cockpit). Do you know what is in 303 exactly? I'm not sure it's sold here, but knowing what's in it may help me to find a similar product here.

Thanks again for the answers.
04-19-2010 02:07 PM
sailingdog Thank you for your feedback. Also, please read the Full Disclosure thread in the Boat Buying forum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbrella View Post
Sunbrella isn’t 100% waterproof. Its designed to be breathable to aid with drying in certain applications like boat covers, boat tops, etc. Where additional repellency is desired we offer two additional versions of Sunbrella. One is Sunbrella Plus, which has a backcoating to make it highly water resistant. The other is Sunbrella Supreme, which has similar features, but also has a flocked side that resembles the texture of a car headliner.

All three versions, Sunbrella, Sunbrella Plus, and Sunbrella Supreme are made with the same highly UV resistant fiber and yarns, but have different repellency characteristics depending on what level of repellency/breathability you desire for your application. Also note that any sewn seam will need extra care to prevent leakage, but there will be no misting through the body of the fabric.

With regards to fabric treatments -- Thompson’s water seal, while it may seal deck boarding very well, it will likely make your Sunbrella stiff and boardy. If you are simply trying to get one last year out of your Sunbrella cover, Thompson’s water seal may restore some repellency and extend the useful life of the cover to some degree, but it will also likely make the fabric become somewhat stiff and certainly voids the warranty. The only authorized after treatment for Sunbrella is from 303 Products. Use of 303 does not void your warranty.

Sunbrella has been sold around the world for almost 50 years and although certain climates are obviously more harsh than others, especially with respect to UV exposure, Sunbrella performs from both a strength and color retention standpoint in accordance to its 10 year limited warranty… providing it is properly maintained as you would any investment or essential component on your boat.
04-19-2010 01:30 PM
Sunbrella Sunbrella isn’t 100% waterproof. Its designed to be breathable to aid with drying in certain applications like boat covers, boat tops, etc. Where additional repellency is desired we offer two additional versions of Sunbrella. One is Sunbrella Plus, which has a backcoating to make it highly water resistant. The other is Sunbrella Supreme, which has similar features, but also has a flocked side that resembles the texture of a car headliner.

All three versions, Sunbrella, Sunbrella Plus, and Sunbrella Supreme are made with the same highly UV resistant fiber and yarns, but have different repellency characteristics depending on what level of repellency/breathability you desire for your application. Also note that any sewn seam will need extra care to prevent leakage, but there will be no misting through the body of the fabric.

With regards to fabric treatments -- Thompson’s water seal, while it may seal deck boarding very well, it will likely make your Sunbrella stiff and boardy. If you are simply trying to get one last year out of your Sunbrella cover, Thompson’s water seal may restore some repellency and extend the useful life of the cover to some degree, but it will also likely make the fabric become somewhat stiff and certainly voids the warranty. The only authorized after treatment for Sunbrella is from 303 Products. Use of 303 does not void your warranty.

Sunbrella has been sold around the world for almost 50 years and although certain climates are obviously more harsh than others, especially with respect to UV exposure, Sunbrella performs from both a strength and color retention standpoint in accordance to its 10 year limited warranty… providing it is properly maintained as you would any investment or essential component on your boat.
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