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|07-10-2010 05:49 PM|
Well we ordered out new Rocna last week after five years of CQR. In all that time , and we anchor out frequently, the CQR only let us down once and that was in medium hard sand where it simply refused to stay put, indeed it refused to set for more than a few minutes. This was in less than 5m of water with 35m of chain but into a well over 20knot headwind.
Previous boat had a Danforth. Once I added sufficient chain that too was a very reliable setup but never gave me the feeling of security of the CQR.
In mud, the CQR once held us in 10m, with 35m chain and 35m rope into the face of a buster that gusted to in excess of 45 knots. Solid.
I've also realised that in fact our CQR was really a size small for our needs.
Still and all it was time to replace the old and the Rocna gets enough praise from users for me to give it a go. I'm happy to accept that anchor technology has moved on since the CQR was born but I guess we shall see.
I should add that provided Rocna have good quality control in place in China then I am not concerned with the country of origin. The Chinese are quite capable of producing a world class product , its just that left to their own devices they choose price over quality. To some extent however, I do wonder why the prices have not come down. Maybe they will in time although I believe they have in fact gone up recently.
|07-10-2010 03:53 PM|
But what is your boat worth....
Let's keep one thing in mind. It is your anchor and chain that keep your boat safe; for liveaboard cruisers it's their home.
We've spent the last three years cruising the Alaska/BC coast, exclusively using a 45 lb Manson Supreme attached to 200' of 5/16" chain. We've sat out 40 kt storms for a week, anchored in less than ideal conditions, anchored in way sub-par conditions, but our Supreme has never - I repeat NEVER, let us down.
When we purchased the Manson Supreme 5 years ago, we paid a premium price but it was worth it.
I remember a couple years ago, someone (I can't remember who) had an Anchor Showdown. (This was after we bought the Supreme). I remember reading that the Supreme was set at a 5:1 scope and then the chain was drawn in to leave only a 3:1 scope. The Supreme performed almost as good at 3:1 as it did at 5:1.
I'd rather give up a few bottles of (insert your favorite beverage here) in order to spend the money on something that will let me sleep well.
|06-26-2010 10:27 AM|
You want to see over priced... look at the CQR's pricing. I can't wait to get a Manson or Rocna.
By the way... if anyone would like a brand new Lewmar CQR 35# anchor with the sticker still on it. Look for mine on Ebay. The CQR really is the best choice for everyone
|06-25-2010 09:28 PM|
Love that video. But a question: that video, and others, have the anchor being pulled at “0” scope. The implication is that at higher scope (such as launching an anchor from a sailboat) the performance would be even more dramatic.
Is this necessarily true?
|06-22-2010 11:52 AM|
|Nitro||Interesting. I too always thought the CQR had a great reputation in NE which is why I've used it. In retrospect, I've not been overly pleased with it. Like most anchors, it's fine once it sets...but I've had too many perfect approaches foiled by an anchor that didn't bite when/where it was supposed to the first time.|
|06-22-2010 08:34 AM|
Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
I'm just saying that when the next big thing in anchors comes along, I'm sure the prices of Rocnas and Manson Supremes will come down
Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Looks to me like their most distinguishing "feature" is a way to easily destroy ones fingers. That's one of the same reasons I don't like Danforth anchors. I guess I don't like anything that's heavy and hinged, with pinch-points, that I'd have to haul around a deck, perhaps under adverse conditions.
|06-21-2010 11:09 PM|
Well we are beleivers. I have the 44lb Rocna and have had many different shape and sized anchors before it. ( not as many as Maine had in his picture though) While no anchor is better in every condition then ones specifically made for it. I have to fall into the camp with Maine sail and Dog that the Rocna is the best I have had. We sail from the Chesapeake to New England and it performs better than any anchor I have ever used. So jim you can pupu the technology, but I I am sleeping better when anchored now with the Rocna than with my old CQR. Get my sleep is important. Ask the ADMIRAL!!!!!
|06-21-2010 10:13 PM|
Thanks for this feedback and video, guys. I'm presently refitting a 32,000# early IOR ocean racer into a cruiser that has no bow roller. Obviously, she'll get one. But it's fabrication should ideally take the anchor design itself into consideration. I've had a 45# CQR pull out or not set too many times to not take notice.
Saw this bow roller/Rocna combo photo here or there and it has me intrigued. Now if I can just find a way to attach a Code 0 furler to it....easy enough.
|06-21-2010 09:27 PM|
|LinekinBayCD||The new 33 lb Rocna stows better on my roller than the 35 lb Delta it replaced. The downward turn of the shank starts a little sooner than with the Delta putting a little more room between the top of the shank and the keeper pin above the roller. It probably depends a lot on your roller.|
|06-21-2010 12:45 PM|
They do stow on a bow roller fairly well, but take up a lot of space in a locker or down below otherwise.
Originally Posted by Maine Sail View Post
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