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Topic Review (Newest First)
07-12-2010 12:48 PM
QuickMick i imagine he has been sitting somewhere waiting on a broker....
07-12-2010 09:30 AM
4arch Hey maybe he's been out looking at boats all weekend.
07-12-2010 07:17 AM
sailingdog LOL...very true... it does show a problem with his ability to communicate, doesn't it.
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Originally Posted by bljones View Post
Notice that the OP has not been back to this thread to either acknowledge the advice he has received or to provide new info. If this is the approach he has taken to communicating with brokers as well, I am unsure what right has to bitch about the responses he has received.
07-11-2010 10:20 PM
bljones Notice that the OP has not been back to this thread to either acknowledge the advice he has received or to provide new info. If this is the approach he has taken to communicating with brokers as well, I am unsure what right has to bitch about the responses he has received.
07-08-2010 03:36 PM
tomwatt Another good site I could recommend is at Sailing Texas.
Sailing Texas, sailing lessons, sailboats for sale, yacht sales, sailboat rentals, charters, sailing videos
It's not just about Texas. Boats advertised there from all over the place.
07-08-2010 03:34 PM
primerate84 I had a good and bad experience with brokers. The first time I called a broker about a boat that was listed at his marina, he basically blew me off, even when I was trying to set up a time to look at the boat (a three hour drive for me). After numerous calls and e-mails, I quit making any further attempts.

When I was at a marina with my friend, he mentioned that his broker (different guy) was very helpful when he was buying his Beneteau 28. I met up with him at a boat show and casually mentioned what I was looking for, 28 to 30 feet, around $20 to 22 thousand. Within two weeks, he found me a boat that I ended up buying. The guy went out of his way to make the deal work. So the moral of the story is, there are good and bad brokers. Find the good one.
07-08-2010 03:06 PM
EJO
Lake MI brokers

I was in a similar position as you are. A buddy of mine wanted a sailboat and asked if I wanted to partner up. He had zero zilch boating experience but liked it when he saw these sailors in the cockpit leaving the channel to go sailing on Lake Michigan. He knew I had the experience and could teach him. He was looking at yachtworld every day and sent me links. Boats of $50K and less.
As he didn't know if he would like sailing I told him why don't we try for an older solid 28' to 34' boat in the $15K range, keeping investment at a minimum if he didn't like it and wanted to sell after one season.
We found many on the East and West coasts of Lake Michigan and finally contacted a broker via e-mail for a boat listed in West Michigan. Found out that sometimes the contact shown is not really the listing broker (think real estate) the broker was in FL for a listing in MI???.
We found out who the "real" broker was by looking at the boat in person in the middle of winter. Doing this we saw many more boats for sale (as all are on the hard) in various marinas in the towns we drove through.
Finally narrowed it down and called the listing brokers and/or owners and made appointments for preliminary viewing and more specific detailed background info. This broker was very professional helped us with many details, did a sea trial with us, filed registration, did the deed, etc. and all for $800 . He went by 'if he services us now we will come back later' because we all know that the happiest days of our lives are the days when we buy a boat and when we sell a boat. My partner is hooked so he/we will buy a more expensive boat in the near future, listing our current boat with this broker and using him to buy another one.
Send me a PM and I let you know who it is.

ps. Our first sail was 81 miles on the big Lake Michigan starting with frost on the deck and sun in the back 12:30 hrs later at our home-port and a novice hooked. Preparation, preparation, preparation is all it takes for a longer trip.

E-J
s/v SAILMATES, 1973 IRWIN 32 Classic
07-08-2010 02:58 PM
F4d3d In the age of the internet, I don't think that boat brokers (or real estate agents) are worth their fees. Anyone can post an ad on Craigslist or another classified ads site, and it will be seen as readily as it would on YachtWorld. With the thousands saved on listing with an agent, I think a seller is more likely to strike a deal with a buyer which keeps some extra cash in the pockets of both parties.
07-08-2010 02:42 PM
BarryL Hey

What you have found is typical. IMO most brokers are not good. But - a few are. My suggestion is to find a good broker and just work with them for any boats near them - even if they don't have the listing.

Lastly, planning a vacation around an older, unknown, cheap boat doesn't sound like a vacation to me.

Good luck
Barry
07-08-2010 02:10 PM
LauderBoy
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Originally Posted by Canadaler View Post
"Inexpensive" for me is <$20K. I've been looking in the Great Lakes and Northeast regions. The "plan" I had was to gather as much information as I can, if that looks good, take a trip to see it, then survey/offer.
Don't just use yachtworld.com/brokers for this. Go to sailboatlistings.com and craigslist(yes, craigslist) for a boat in that price range. Camp both of those sites and check them daily.

You'll see a lot of okay/decent value old listings with prices that come down every X months or so as the sellers get motivated to sell them. Then you'll also see some real gems that get listed and get snapped up pretty quick.

Also, do yourself a favor and look at a lot of boats in person. Every boat I looked at I learned more about what I wanted and didn't want. I ended up making an offer(and buying) a boat I had looked at a month prior.
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