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04-20-2012 05:38 PM
Xx Darkwing xX
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

I know the moorage bill will go up. That sucks but anything worth doing is worth doing well so I won't skimp on size just to saves few $$$.
DW
04-20-2012 01:19 PM
Faster
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
The difference between a 35' and 38' of similar type changes nothing.
....except the moorage bill
04-20-2012 01:05 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

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Originally Posted by Xx Darkwing xX View Post
Many thanks for the info. I'm looking into those now. Previously I had been looking at 34-36 footers. Does 2 foot in length add much more complexity? We have completed ASA101 but need a refresher as we are landlocked for the last 3 years. Dw
Length per se doesn't add any cost, complexity or difficulty in handling. Look at the displacement - that better reflects the difference in size.

The difference between a 35' and 38' of similar type changes nothing.
04-20-2012 12:17 PM
DRFerron
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

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Originally Posted by Xx Darkwing xX View Post
Previously I had been looking at 34-36 footers. Does 2 foot in length add much more complexity? We have completed ASA101 but need a refresher as we are landlocked for the last 3 years.
Dw
Not complexity in handling so much as four times the cost.
04-20-2012 11:50 AM
Xx Darkwing xX
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

Many thanks for the info. I'm looking into those now. Previously I had been looking at 34-36 footers. Does 2 foot in length add much more complexity? We have completed ASA101 but need a refresher as we are landlocked for the last 3 years.

Dw
04-19-2012 01:06 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

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Originally Posted by Xx Darkwing xX View Post
Sadly the whole wants vs can afford to have issue is rearing its ugly head. Being new I don't want to go to big and end up not enjoying the boat yet I contest to get an older boat and be forced into serious maintenance issues. I think I wants 35-38 lot Catalina, maybe beneteau at this point. Maybe as old as 92 ish.
I wouldn't assume that an older boat means forcing yourself into serious maintenance issues. A 20 year old boat can easily require serious maintenance if it hasn't been kept up - twenty year old rigging, sails, engine, upholstery etc. are, or can be at the end of their lives.

There are LOTS of old boats that are in perfect condition and lots of quite new boats in need of serious work - see an ex-charter boat for illustration.

It sounds to me that an old Catalina 38 (The S&S / Yankee version), if well kept, would be ideal for you. There are currently 15 of them on YW, asking from $20K to $55K. Picking up one of them for say, $32K and spending some more for new sails, running rigging and upholstery will still bring you in well below a comparable used boat 15 years old. The condition of the engine will be a critical point in which boat to choose though - that can get REAL expensive.
04-19-2012 02:50 AM
Xx Darkwing xX
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

Sadly the whole wants vs can afford to have issue is rearing its ugly head. Being new I don't want to go to big and end up not enjoying the boat yet I contest to get an older boat and be forced into serious maintenance issues. I think I wants 35-38 lot Catalina, maybe beneteau at this point. Maybe as old as 92 ish.
04-01-2012 03:16 AM
Xx Darkwing xX
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

Nice catch toyou both on the hulk vs hull. Dang auto spelling got me on that one. Can't thank you both enough or the good info!
04-01-2012 02:44 AM
Faster
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

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Originally Posted by Xx Darkwing xX View Post
Thx SloopJonB. Much appreciated. Any idea if keel stepped masts are better than deck stepped? Are steel hulks better than fiberglass hulls? Remedial question but it is hard to narrow down boat types without really having a vast sailing bkgd. If this were aircraft I could offer much to the forum but for now I'm a sponge who hopes to give backin the future! Thx for the help.
Keel stepped masts can offer some structural/sailshape advantages but tend to let rainwater into the boat despite best efforts to prevent it. A deck stepped mast is drier but many deck stepped boats suffer problems in the supporting structure required to support the high compression loads of the rigs. (Decks can 'crush', wooden compression posts can have issues, etc) But keel stepped boats can have step issues too.

With any properly engineered boat in good condition neither of these set ups should be an issue, however.

Steel hulks are to be avoided... - but there are some very good steel hulled boats, though the real good ones come at a premium. The bad ones are usually a maintenance headache but they can be easily repaired anywhere in the world.. and can be massively strong. Also many steel boats are likely home built with all the issues (good and bad) that can go with that. There are very few mainstream builders using steel, it doesn't lend itself to 'production lines'.

It can be bewildering.. but read lots, read the forums and you'll soon get a good picture of what's out there, and no shortage of opinions!!

Good luck and welcome to the forum

EDIT: oops... cross posted with JonB.... sorry.
04-01-2012 02:42 AM
SloopJonB
Re: Catalina 30 vs. Hunter 30

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Thx SloopJonB. Much appreciated. Any idea if keel stepped masts are better than deck stepped?
I think it is generally viewed that keel stepped is better or stronger on big boats - say 30' and up. Below that I don't personally think it matters much since the stresses are not really significant.

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Are steel hulks better than fiberglass hulls?
That could be construed as a Freudian slip by some. Steel has it for ultimate strength but for most people, the way most people sail, glass is hands down the best choice. Maintenance is less critical - glass can withstand neglect far better than steel.

There are very good reasons why the vast majority of recreational boats are fiberglass.
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