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08-30-2010 09:25 PM
SJ34 Denise, if you are putting off replacing your steering cables because of the price of Edson original parts then wait no longer. You don't need to use Edson's platinum plated cable. Take your old wire (or get the size from Edson), go to the nearest WM and build your own. You should be able to replace your cables and hardware for less than $50.
08-30-2010 11:55 AM
puddinlegs A couple of thought Denise. In addition to your 4:1, an additional 4:1 fine tune on your main sheet might be very helpful. If you haven't had the rig looked at and tuned, it's a good thing to put on the 'to do' list. Steering cables rarely if ever break unless maintenance has been deferred. Don't let yourself be in a position to have to worry about them. And about the new sails, did anyone from Bacon have a look at them while sailing after you bought them? It could be that you're still not able to flatten the main enough and there might be a need for a little re-cutting?.... just some thoughts.
08-30-2010 09:18 AM
deniseO30

I think this is it from the online catalog.. won't be on the boat for a few days yet.

forget which model I used for the mainsheet. I'm sure it' s only 4 to 1.

TDW I should tune the rig but she's not uncontrollable in a gust. I'm just cautious of my steering cable. A couple of times I did hold her on course but she was heeled awaaaaaaay over fun but pointless imho. I've seen racers that have Catalina 30s break cables in less wind. lately with the better sails I got from Bacon (used) she literally seems like a new boat to me! and handles like a sailboat instead of a slug
08-30-2010 01:29 AM
puddinlegs Denise, can you post a picture of your mainsheet + traveller?
08-30-2010 12:30 AM
tdw Denise,
Have you thought about getting a rigger to check your rig tune ? When we first bought Raven she was damn near uncontrollable in a gust. When we had our standing rigging replaced and the rig tuned as part of that exercise, she came back a boat transformed.
08-29-2010 10:25 PM
deniseO30 Thanks Faster, and I'm more likely to err on the side of taking easy too. One reason I don't race my old boat. I agree that the occasional need for more purchase in the main sheet would be nice to have someday like most things.. someday
08-29-2010 10:09 PM
Faster It does sound like you could use a more powerful tackle on the mainsheet - rope burns suck however you look at it.

But you really should have confidence in your steering gear, and if you're that concerned about the cable, you should have it properly inspected/replaced for peace of mind. In good shape it should be able to withstand any loads you might normally subject it to.

Nothing worse than always being ill-at-ease because you're unsure of your boat and/or its gear when the going gets going - there's usually already enough anxiety to go around without those concerns by then.
08-29-2010 09:59 PM
deniseO30 I've a garharuer traveler and mainsheet. it's pretty hefty but the main sheet will scream out when released. double blocks on the trav. and car, what's that 4 to 1? forget. I'd love to have a main sheet control with the 3 blocks on the boom someday.
08-29-2010 09:35 PM
Classic30 Denise, from the pic, it looks like your rudder will stall out rather quickly.. Having done a bit of river sailing myself, I know what you mean. Gaps between buildings can be unpredictable at best!!

Forget the traveller - I found that the best thing to do in a gust (especially in a race) is to have someone ready to dump the mainsheet and able to get it back in almost as quickly. The best system I've seen for this is one with "coarse/fine" adjustment for the mainsheet: basically a 2 or 4:1 purchase with a 12:1 or so on the inboard end for getting the mainsheet in hard when it isn't so gusty. It may mean a couple more blocks on the mainsheet, but if it makes life less "interesting", I think it would be worth it..
08-29-2010 09:09 PM
deniseO30 It's typical river sailing Here, wham! rounding up in a heartbeat. Yes sometimes it's hard to dump the main with the traveler then the main sheet too if necessary. Oday's have very large rudders too.
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