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11-16-2010 08:29 AM
JimsCAL I belong to the Hempstead Harbour Club that was mentioned earlier. PM me if you'd like some info.

Coming from the city, I wouldn't consider going farther out than Northport. Manhasset Bay, Sea Cliff/Glen Cove, Oyster Bay, Huntington, and Northport all have LIRR train service. Station in Oyster Bay is closest to the waterfront. Others would require a cab. All have a mix of marinas with slips, commercial moorings and yacht clubs. And while the wind is not as reliable in the summer as the south shore, it's not as bad as you are lead to believe. And the deep water and endless cruising options make up for the lighter summer winds.
11-15-2010 10:51 PM
HUGOSALT Time of transit and close access to the LIRR being a consideration, you might want to look at:
Manhasset Bay: can walk from train, close to restaurants (by water and land) hardware stores, a local west marine.
Steppingstone Marina in Great Neck, town run marina
(allows non-residents for small prem) great park setting
with concerts sat/sun in the summer, launch service
5 am to 11-12 pm. right on sound facing City Island a mile across the sound.###disclosure...I'm partial, my marina.###
Both above are on the Port Washington line of the railroad, which means no Jamacia,about 30 minutes from Penn station.
Oyster bay further out but waterfront is close to railroad.
If you consider Manhasset Bay or Steppingstone let me
know I can show you around. Hugo
11-15-2010 09:29 PM
seadaddler
What About

What about the Moorings next to the Cross Island heading over to throgs neck bridge.
11-15-2010 09:17 AM
capitalistnyc All good Points and very thorough. Thanks HS, JJ, and WS.

It sounds like there are many great options from Sinai moving west. I will look into all and keep you guys in the loop.

Transportation to sail is certainly a big variable in the decision. Currently it takes me 1 hour + by rail to Freeport or a little more driving. The brooklyn marina can take almost as long with traffic or by subway to taxi. There may be an opp for mooring in Redhook in the harbor for next season. Would be 20 minutes walking from where I live in Park Slope but it is private and a long shot for now. In the end, If it is a sailing day, I will get moving early enough to be on water by sunup regardless of where she is.

WS - Paul mentioned you are in Sinai. I look forward to meeting next visit out.
11-15-2010 08:15 AM
WanderingStar All good points. I like living close to my boat, but sometimes it would be great to have one out east for cruising there.
Old Man's and Ralph's are both reputable family businesses that have served Mount Sinai for decades. If you do come out here, look me up.
11-15-2010 07:52 AM
jjablonowski
NYC is an archipelago

Only one of its five boroughs is on the North American mainland. Surrounded by water, we've got Lots of opportunities.

That said, traffic is a whole 'nother issue. Me, I'd rather be sailing than crawling along behind a Hamptons-bound beemer on the Southern State.

From Brooklyn, figure out shortest drive times, if you drive. If the Sound sounds appealing, consider Manhasset Bay, or City Island. If LIRR, moorings in Port Washington are a short walk to the rail station. If you can do Metro North out of Grand Central, the Mamaroneck train station is less than a mile to some great, well-protected marinas and moorings.

Best bet: ActiveCaptain - The Interactive Cruising Guidebook - Marina Reviews, Fuel Prices, Anchoragesto map-read and scope out possibilities.
11-15-2010 01:00 AM
HUGOSALT Above posts pretty much cover things. A point if you
bring your lighter, light air H23 up to the sound. You
might want to consider the larger western bays such as
Northport/Huntington Bay or Oyster Bay/Cold Spring Harbor. Reasoning being that in light/med wind conditions...sail out to the sound and enjoy. In heavy winds you can still sail all day in the protected bays.
Out east Pt Jeff offers similiar situation, but smaller
and with ferries.
And if no wind in the sound, you have your Pearson
on the south shore.
Also in the west you have many close by destinations,
bays and great small towns both on the LI side and the closer Ct. side, and some great views and landscape.
Nothing against the eastern options (I love to sail the eastern sound).
Good luck, it's great to have options. Hugo
11-14-2010 06:12 PM
capitalistnyc Thanks CD. I will look into all.

I did see the Morgan. Big project.
11-14-2010 06:09 PM
Bene505
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalebD View Post
...Did you take a pass on that nearly 'free' Morgan? Did you get to see it?
Yes, how did she look?

Regards,
Brad
11-14-2010 05:55 PM
CalebD Sounds like a pretty good plan to me. You would have the best of both worlds (north & south shores) and keeping your P27 on the GSB makes sense if you are thinking of poking your nose out of Fire Island Inlet. Your H23 should be fine for the LI Sound in most conditions (I've seen it with 50 knot gusts on it and it ain't pretty). An ideal situation would be to find a yard that has a boat ramp and would allow you to keep the H23 with the rig up, essentially dry sailing this boat. The constraint here is tidal range.
One difference between the north and south shores is tidal range. The GSB has around a 3' tidal range while parts of the sound can have an 8' + tidal range. Many boat ramps on the north shore are fairly useless at low water in my experience.
I would also check out Oyster Bay The WaterFront Center, Oyster Bay, NY - Long Island Sound: Sailing, Boating, Marine Education, Field Trips, Recreation, Kayaking, Summer Programs
I'm not sure if they have the facilities for keeping your H23 on the trailer or not though.
Did you take a pass on that nearly 'free' Morgan? Did you get to see it?
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