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02-04-2011 10:38 AM
hellosailor rxbot-
"I am fairly sure good quality pewter...made in modern times is a lead free and safe to use."

Have you ever bought a cut of meat called "Tri-Tip" ? It is one of many cuts that simply did not exist 50 years ago. Now, have cattle been redesigned in the last 50 years? No. So how come these cuts of meat didn't exist 50 years ago?

Because it is all a name game! When pewter was declared unsafe, the whole pewter "industry" had a problem. They couldn't sell their products for anything except wall hanging. So they redefined "pewter" and what you call pewter today is perfectly safe--except it isn't pewter.

Hocus-pocus jiminyocus! Poof! And it looks just like pewter. Might even taste like pewter (which has a distinctive taste) but I haven't compared any to find out.

I know, sometimes the butchers find a different way to slice--but the meat they are slicing, still came from someplace which already had a different name. The new pewter is undoubtedly better than the New Coke, but it still isn't "pewter".

From wikipedia, which doesn't mention taste: "The constituents of pewter were first controlled in the 12th century by town guilds in France. By the 15th century, the Worshipful Company of Pewterers controlled pewter constituents in England. This company originally had two grades of pewter, but in the 16th century a third grade was added. The first type, known as "fine metal", was used for flatware. It consisted of tin with as much copper as it could absorb, which is about 1%. The second type, known as "trifling metal" or "trifle", was used for holloware. It is made up of fine metal with approximately 4% lead. The last type of pewter, known as "lay" or "ley" metal, was used for items that were not in contact with food or drink. It consisted of tin with 15% lead. These three alloys were used, with little variation, until the 20th century.[3]"

And of course, the American nation descended mainly from the British traditions.
02-04-2011 06:39 AM
sailingdog
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Originally Posted by RXBOT View Post
I am fairly sure good quality pewter wine glasses, champagne flutes and other dinnerware made in modern times is a lead free and safe to use. In the past I drank a lot of wine with my X out of pewter wine goblets and really enjoyed using them. Still use a 2 ounce pewter shot glass.
Not if it is actually pewter.
02-04-2011 01:09 AM
RXBOT I am fairly sure good quality pewter wine glasses, champagne flutes and other dinnerware made in modern times is a lead free and safe to use. In the past I drank a lot of wine with my X out of pewter wine goblets and really enjoyed using them. Still use a 2 ounce pewter shot glass.
02-02-2011 11:25 PM
Danny33 Plastic camp ware for every day use and the blown clay dishes for company .
Coffee cups for us and glass when company comes over ...fifteen years and not much gets broken !
02-02-2011 10:58 PM
hellosailor doheny, you can get titanium dinnerware from REI and Campmor, it is marketed to high-altitude campers who pare off every last ounce. It has less of a taste than stainles does.

Real pewter is illegal for dinnerware these days because it is made with a high lead content and that leaches out. What is called pewter, isn't really. But there's a lot of "decorator" stuff made out of the ersatz pewter.
02-02-2011 10:48 PM
dohenyboy Pewter dinner plates and drinking glasses.
looks good and durable
or stainless steel
I wanted to get titanium but have not been able to find them
12-16-2010 12:20 PM
nailbunnySPU Agreed that corelle is good, glass is good. I buy glassware they sell individually at wal mart, so I can easily buy replacements as they break.

Plates and bowls are easy to keep, nonskid has been mentioned for putting between them. I got the stuff that's a grid of waffle-like foam that comes in rolls, intended for cabinets and drawers, again out of wal mart.

Pint glasses and any sort of stacking drinking glass is hard to keep. Non-skid has to go between those, or they'll fuse together or spontaneously break. I find drinking from plastic can be less dismal if you get those novelty cups with LEDs in them, so they glow purty colors.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is hand-washing. I've tried sponges, abrasive pads, palm-fitting brushes that dispense detergent. At this point i'm real fond of the long-handle sponge scrubber that dispenses soap from the handle. It's not trivial to wash out the inside of narrow cups in close quarters. Something to think about when you're buying cups, how are you going to clean it? Can you fit your hand inside it?
12-14-2010 07:03 AM
Minnewaska Only aboard 4 days per week. Real plates and bowls with small pieces of carpet anti-skid between each and on locker bottom. They never move. Only chips in side from knocking around while washing. None broken yet.

Plastic drinking tumblers, two sizes. No idea where they came from. They have etched palm trees in them. We like them.

Same variety of plastic wine glasses with same palm trees. These are horrible. Wine was intended to be consumed from glass.
12-13-2010 10:15 PM
Livia Stemless wine glasses (cheap from Target - $10 for 4), Corelle plates, small Japanese style tea cups for espresso (ceramic), plastic big water glasses, camelbak better bottles, and MSR mugs (metal inside and I love the plasticized coating).

We've broken about the same amount of wine glasses as we broke on land, lost two Corelle bowls overboard because the suckers are slippery when wet, but otherwise haven't broken anything.
12-13-2010 07:34 PM
sailingdog IIRC, Corelle is tempered glass and should not be used with serrated knives, which can damage the surface and leave them prone to shattering dramatically...

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
"Corelle is great stuff...but when it breaks, it really sucks..."
Don't you wish. Corelle never "breaks" but if you manage to drop it so a stress line hits something hard, the damned stuff explodes like a grenade. I've only done that once in all the years (30 odd?) I'd eaten off it and that was one bowl dropped on a vinyl-over-wood fairly gentle floor.
But it went off like a bomb.

I don't use the Corelle mugs, they were never "muggy" enough for me, so over the years I've lost a few mainly novelty mugs of different kinds, heavy porcelain or whitewear. But I've also got a couple of double-walled stainless steel mugs, and I love the way they leave no sweat rings and keep a cold drink COLD.

"Dear Santa: Titanium double-wall mugs would make the boat faster and lighter, and that's always a good thing."
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