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12-15-2010 12:04 AM
TerralTheSeeker Somebody get the cops on the phone - that guy stole my DREAM! LOL!

Seriously, I love your idea, man. If I were in your shoes, I'd get a smaller boat that's easy to handle and needs nothing in the way of upgrades or repairs. Then I'd hassle a very experienced, long-distance sailor to coach me plus take the advanced sailing courses. Even then, I'd stay pretty close to land if I were going to be solo-ing it. Most likely though, you'll find somebody willing to take the trip with you, although you can't listen to me really cuz I don't know diddly having just graduated with my Basic Keelboat 101.

Kind of strange reading the posts from the experienced sailors, because I'm planning something similar, and I find myself going "Aaaaaw man, that sucks!" and "Hmmm, that's a good point!" alternately.
12-14-2010 12:44 AM
moskalm
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Hi Matt,

I took my first sailing course on the Cherry Creek Reservoir in Denver

I bought my first boat in Seattle, WA while still living Colorado and have spent the last 3 years learning how to sail her and enjoying cruising British Columbia.

Dream big. Livia
LIVIA thats amazing! I went to Cherry Creek High School and have been on that reservoir many times...I'll be crewing on a 27' from bahamas to Florida in one month! Lets hope I learn A LOT! Enjoy the Northwest, maybe one day I'll make my way up there on a boat of my own for a visit...
12-13-2010 10:36 PM
sparker27 I was telling my dad last year how I wanted to backpack the Colorado Trail. All he said to me was "Don't wait too long". The way he said it, his emotions and actions really had an effect on me.

I am doing the Colorado Trail this summer and pushing towards everything I should of done 10 years ago. (Trekking in Nepal is up after and I will be sailing around the world 8-9 years from now)

So, don't wait too long.
12-13-2010 10:05 PM
Livia Hi Matt,

I took my first sailing course on the Cherry Creek Reservoir in Denver

I bought my first boat in Seattle, WA while still living Colorado and have spent the last 3 years learning how to sail her and enjoying cruising British Columbia.

Dream big. Livia
12-13-2010 08:32 PM
sparker27 Great advice so far.

Matt, just keep moving forward towards achieving your goals.
12-12-2010 09:37 PM
moskalm Hey all-
Sorry I'm so late on the response- out of town and beyond busy.
Thank you all so much for the criticisms and advice, all were taken to heart. I've decided to take the lessons, study profusely, then crew with an experienced captain before pursuing my dream. Hearing both encouragements and warnings has both solidified my mindset and adjusted it for the best. I'll keep yall updated and wish you the best!
12-10-2010 10:58 AM
sailingfool My suggestion is that you look for paid or unpaid crewing opportunities available here
Offshore Passage Opportunities: Halesite, New York

3-4 weeks at sea on a sailboat and you will be well up the curve.

when you buy your boat, you'll do yourself a big favor if you buy a "needs nothing" boat, especially as a first time buyer. otherwise you are likely to have many expensive learning opportunities (as opposed to just a few). Go smaller if your budget requires, versus buying a bigger 'fix-er-upper".
12-10-2010 10:30 AM
LandLocked66c Great advice! Do you all think that if he looked into perhaps a 24' to 25' boat that his budget would be better off? Should be enough room for a single guy making his way to the Bahamas...
12-10-2010 09:32 AM
tweitz I would add that it is important to spend some time crewing with an experienced hand even for the small things that you learn, and also to find out if you really do like it. Some people who love saiing on paper find that they are always seasick. Or they don't like the long periods of quiet (I love them). Nice to know before you sink your life savings into it.
An awful lot of sailing involves getting a feel for things and knowing how to react quickly and correctly in a situation that develops suddenly. These tend to come from experience.
Lessons are not everything, I have sailed for more than 50 years (yeesh) and learned from watching and doing, not formal lessons. Reading helps, but it will not dock a boat in a crosswind. You should (and it sounds like you have) read as much as possible, but take it slow and build your skills in bite size segments. Solo sailing can be tricky, it should not be your sole plan.
And I agree that your budget is not enough for that size boat.
12-10-2010 09:19 AM
boomvangdc Matt,

First off, congratulations on getting into sailing and planning a post-grad adventure. As you've probably already gathered from this forum, cruising is an amazing way to see the world.

But since you are new to sailing, I would strongly suggest that you go a different route than trying to buy and sail your own boat. Owning a boat is a MAJOR responsibility. It's not like a car - it breaks a lot more frequently and you can't take it to the nearest dealership to fix. It requires a ton of hands-on maintenance, from bottom paint to varnishing to diesel maintenance to plumbing systems, all of which take a lot of time to learn and understand. You also have to understand that you'll be spending 20% of the boat's cost EACH YEAR in maintenance work. Can you afford that?

And then there's sailing. Sure, you may learn the proper way to set the sails pretty quickly, but what about reading charts? Understanding current? Do you know how to enter a harbor when wind and current are opposing one another and creating breaking waves? Can you get in and out of a dock? Do you know how to properly tie or anchor your boat in a storm? How to read a GRIB file? How to use GPS, SSB, VHS, and other electronics? Again, there's a lot to learn and it takes time and experience.

I would recommend saving that money and crewing for a more experienced captain. It's safer, you'll learn a ton, and you'll still get to have amazing adventures in exotic places. There are a ton of places online where you can find people looking for crew someone as eager as you will have no problem getting signed up.

Good luck!
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