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03-03-2011 03:27 PM
ftldiver WTH?

AFAIK, some countries allow you to keep them aboard (lockedup) and some want to hold them for you until you clear out. - from what I read, sometimes when they hold them for you, they get lost or misplaced...

Shotguns are thought of as defensive weapons, and won't upset too many customs. handguns and long magazine guns can be a problem... (mexico).

I would want a shotty aboard for cruising, and probably a pistol, but beyond that I think its too much trouble, or the bad guys will out gun me.

the pirates have 50cals and RPG... and AK's -nothing I could carry can defend against that.
03-02-2011 09:28 PM
MaineFloat Will delete ~ my apologies (contritely so..) Delete as you deem necessary, best wishes for all!
03-02-2011 07:53 PM
tdw MaineFloat....enough. You are OffTopic and markedly so. Now I'm not making any judgement on whether you are full of shite, delusional or or simply a windbag but this forum is about Piracy Reports, it is not a forum for second rate Mission Impossible scripts.

If you wish to discuss the arming of private craft then start a new thread in Off Topic Politics.

Any more of your rants here will be deleted and at least one of your older posts are also for the chop.
03-01-2011 09:53 AM
BBurg
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So, then - to recap... Divers working on behalf of Somalian gun runners attach pods filled with AK-47s to the hull while the QUEST is in Mumbai... Ammunition is secretly stowed in the hollowed-out Bibles they carry aboard, and then some sort of mind control is employed to convince the skipper of QUEST to abandon traveling in company of the Blue Water Rally, and travel alone... Then, after pirating the vessel and the US Navy arrives on the scene, they send 2 pirate "negotiators" aboard the STERRET as a diversionary tactic, so they could send a couple of guys over the side to cut loose the stash of weaponry - presumably, because if the Navy Seals had ever detected those pods or submersible drogues filled with weapons, well - then they REALLY might have been in trouble... But then, it all goes pear-shaped when a boatload of illiterate teenagers, hopped up on Khat, who have likely never seen a Holy Bible before in their lives, suddenly turn into Islamic fanatics, and decide to execute their only possible ticket to freedom, out of some sort of "terrorist impulse"?
ROTFLMAO Tom Clancy had better look out. There's a new Sheriff in town. Hilarious post and yep......I believe you have it figured out.

Please mods, don't shut this down. This is the most comical thing I've seen since Laurel and Hardy quit making me grin.
03-01-2011 06:44 AM
Minnewaska The real deal professional that MF suggests he is, would never talk about it, particularly by rambling on in a public forum. This thread needs to be shut down or moved to off-topic.
02-28-2011 11:53 PM
JonEisberg
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^^^^^Is that guy drunk? Too much rum or something. I think he's talking to himself.
Nah, just another Internet Hero - they're a dime a dozen, after all... I believe this tells us all we need to know:

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I've seen it all and pretty much done it all.
Gotta admit, he's got a pretty vivid imagination, however...

So, then - to recap... Divers working on behalf of Somalian gun runners attach pods filled with AK-47s to the hull while the QUEST is in Mumbai... Ammunition is secretly stowed in the hollowed-out Bibles they carry aboard, and then some sort of mind control is employed to convince the skipper of QUEST to abandon traveling in company of the Blue Water Rally, and travel alone... Then, after pirating the vessel and the US Navy arrives on the scene, they send 2 pirate "negotiators" aboard the STERRET as a diversionary tactic, so they could send a couple of guys over the side to cut loose the stash of weaponry - presumably, because if the Navy Seals had ever detected those pods or submersible drogues filled with weapons, well - then they REALLY might have been in trouble... But then, it all goes pear-shaped when a boatload of illiterate teenagers, hopped up on Khat, who have likely never seen a Holy Bible before in their lives, suddenly turn into Islamic fanatics, and decide to execute their only possible ticket to freedom, out of some sort of "terrorist impulse"?

Yeah, that's probably how it went down...
02-28-2011 09:53 PM
BBurg ^^^^^Is that guy drunk? Too much rum or something. I think he's talking to himself.
02-28-2011 05:41 PM
JonEisberg
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It is quite possible the S/V Quest was involved in something the Captn. had no awareness of. I suspect this is the case given the quick retaliation w/no arbiting for the hostages.
What the hell are you talking about? There was no “quick retaliation”, the 4 US naval vessels shadowed the QUEST for quite some time, with 2 pirates brought aboard for a protracted negotiation… What are you suggesting the QUEST was “involved in”, exactly?

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Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Guess I missed my chance at Norman's Cay back in the 80's, but Carlos Lehder's crew took a pretty dim view of cruisers snooping around their lair at the time...
So, then, which countries have you visited on a cruising boat with guns aboard?

*Depends, sometimes weapons are "expressed" via courier boats w/espress arrangements via the "payola" network... My lessons were largely learned by those that actually spent time in Turkish,Asian,Soviet imprisonment. One vessel I worked on had all kinds of cargo loaded without the captain's knowledge or consent. It was later discovered to be enroute from "Ollie North's" playbook of international relations...
OK, I’ll take such a (non)answer to indicate that you never actually have gone much of anywhere aboard a cruising boat, or dealt with checking into foreign countries with weapons aboard…

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*People do get desperate to finance those yachts, didn't occur to you?
Seriously? Are you actually suggesting it’s anything REMOTELY close to commonplace that world cruisers are engaged in international weapons smuggling, or are “financing” their yachts or cruising kitty by doing so? Care to cite any documented examples?
02-28-2011 01:02 PM
JonEisberg
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Rambo? No such thing. Just creative forethought to traveling 'round the sphere... Go observe drug traffikers some night (and day) on the water, go learn from them...
So, then, if I wanted to educate myself, and learn by observing drug traffickers at work on the water some night this week, where do you suggest I go? Is there a particular re-run of MIAMI VICE you have in mind, or something?

Guess I missed my chance at Norman's Cay back in the 80's, but Carlos Lehder's crew took a pretty dim view of cruisers snooping around their lair at the time...

So, then, which countries have you visited on a cruising boat with guns aboard?

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Stop watching so much Rambo Jon, pay attention to what's going on around you, you may just figure out how all that Chinese weaponry is getting into "Fortress America" -
What, are you suggesting a significant percentage is coming in aboard cruising yachts? Damn, who knew?
02-28-2011 12:21 PM
tomperanteau
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Check out the weapons cases on the Sailnet store.[/url]

A great buy!
Nice... We have a shotgun at our office that we will be taking to our boat soon. We need a better case for this and a few other guns that we are going to invest in.
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