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Topic Review (Newest First)
04-05-2014 05:32 AM
EvelynL
Frers F&C 44

Thanks for the update slowgoose! Would also like to see any photos that you have documented of this refit of the rudder...
04-05-2014 05:29 AM
EvelynL
Frers F&C 44

EC,

Owner of 'Explorar Conmigo' K-22 Hull. I would love some photos of your rudder work, and specifications on the parts you either purchased and or had fabricated for the pintal and or gudgeon? I noticed some serious rusty water exiting my Rudder one afternoon after haul out-- the long stream of rusty water concerns me for what lies inside the rudder and it's integrity-- and how long I have until something happens.
Thanks,
Thomas
(Galveston, TX)
04-02-2014 11:41 AM
evangeline44
Re: Frers F&C 44

Thanks for the update
04-01-2014 08:44 PM
slowgoose
Re: Frers F&C 44

RUDDER:

FYI to fellow owners - I have just had a new rudder for K-20 made by Foss Foam - not fitted yet so I'll update at that point.
When the old one was pulled apart Foss Foam reported that it was actually in good condition and both the core and stock were in good shape. Making me wonder why I erred so far in the direction of caution in the first place!
However in removing the stainless heel of the old rudder the yard reported that the bolts through the skeg that held the heel ( or gudgeon) onto the skeg were heavily corroded. It may be worth taking a look if you're heading offshore any time soon. The bushing that the stock sits in in the gudgeon was also worn, in a similar manner to an earlier post, causing a little bit of play ( especially when overpowered in a stiff breeze) and a new one is fabricated.
12-09-2013 03:52 PM
slowgoose
Re: Frers F&C 44

Hi Evelyn,

Didn't get your private message - oh and I don't have a custom dodger - think that was another owner. Thanks
12-02-2013 08:15 PM
EvelynL
Re: F&C 44 Dodger

Would love to see photos of the Dodger photos if you finally had a dodger made? Sent you a Private Message...
11-30-2013 08:52 AM
slowgoose
Re: Frers F&C 44

Thanks so much. We're practically neighbors! - I have seen the pics on the internet of the repairs to your boat, and she certainly looks like a new boat. I too have the "wobble", the rudder is off now and it looks like at the very least I will be replacing the bearing that it sits in. Did you have any moisture in the rudder - did you have any concerns for the integrity of the steel armatures for offshore work? Thanks again.
Will Robinson.
11-29-2013 05:22 PM
EvelynL
Re: Frers F&C 44

I have some original Drawlings in JPG format for the K-22 Hull we own... Happy to share if interested... Have Ariel View + Rudder Chain Plate Design and Specs (in Spanish of course).
Most F&C owners know us on here already, however, I have not met another owner with a K-22 HULL... I assumed there is more than just one of us out here? Or is the numbering sequence unique since they only made 50 of these in Argentina?
11-28-2013 04:07 PM
Holthoefer
Re: Frers F&C 44

Hallo, I own # K16, Baltic See, since 23 years. I had the toe rail and teak deck replaced in 2003. Yet no structural work on chain plates and rudder.
Quantification of water insite the laminate is difficult above steal, so I do not
trust in the measurement. I only hope for the following years.

I am very much interested in other experience/comments.
11-28-2013 09:03 AM
echoffmanjr
Re: Frers F&C 44

Hello, I own #19 SKYE Rye, NY for the last 8 years now in Great Island Boat Yard Harpswell Maine. To all above comments we suffered a srtructural crack in the topsides which upon investigation led to removing all chain plates as the water sitting inside the hull had delaminated the entire area around the plates. The point of water entry as has been referenced was the toe rail. We replaced that, repaired and rebuilt the plates, peeled the hull and reglassed using an infusion technique that should have eliminated the air pockets surrounding the original chain plate construction. new boat! The toe rail and the chain plate tang are the culprits. The steel chainplates and I suspect the rest of the steel used 30 years ago in Argentina was not high quality stainless steel, just plain carbon steel and hence more easily rustable. I dropped my rudder years ago because it was "wobbly", the pintal and gudgeon were refabricated and it's been fine since.

Happy to discuss further. ECH
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