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03-17-2011 04:56 PM
JaredC
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Originally Posted by Faster View Post
Don't make the mistake of assuming you won't need a vang because you have mid boom sheeting.
Oh, boom vang, your use is so misunderstood. This post should be highlighted in yellow or something. Truth.
03-17-2011 01:47 PM
SpcAlan1 I have a normal vang, along with another smaller one in front of it.
03-17-2011 01:44 PM
Faster
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Originally Posted by Waltthesalt View Post
I moved my cabin top traveler to put in a dodger. Mid boom travelers are a good thing for racing as they act as a vang. They more heavily load the boom however. If you're crusing they keep the sheets of the cockpit , less to tangle up the crew
Any mainsheet setup when hard on the wind has a vanging effect. However no mainsheet can possibly have any vanging effect once the sheets are eased - and that's when the vang is most critical.

Don't make the mistake of assuming you won't need a vang because you have mid boom sheeting.


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Originally Posted by SpcAlan1 View Post
I think I am just going to stay where I am at with the traveler - I don't need anymore holes in the boat.

But the running of the lines is a consideration.
Probably your best bet - certainly the easiest and least expensive mod and the improvement would be considerable. You could probably avoid the cost of a clutch and just use a good cam cleat for the mainsheet on the cabin top - put it right at the back edge of the cabin so you won't chafe the gel coat when you're trimming.

As I mentioned before while you're at it, add two more and run your traveller adjustment lines aft as well.
03-17-2011 01:36 PM
SpcAlan1 Agreed.
03-17-2011 01:29 PM
YeahJohn Yeah. I would at least run the main sheet back to the mast and the out to the clutch. It took me some time getting use to the fact that I can only bring in the main and not let out the main with out getting up and releasing the clutch. If you are to worried about it in trying conditions you can always leave the clutch open and run from the winch. Ultimately it is not a hi-tech racing setup, but it is a pretty common rigging standard these days and has been sense the 80's. It also allows you to set the main sheet next to you at the helm. The only benefit of the two speed is that in wind it is easier to trim. I would also try and google images of your boat and see how others have it rigged. Moving the traveler is not a good idea, rig it with in the way it was built to be rigged and learn how to sail the boat with that rigging, versus trying to adapt it to what your are comfortable with.
03-17-2011 01:11 PM
SpcAlan1 I think I am just going to stay where I am at with the traveler - I don't need anymore holes in the boat.

But the running of the lines is a consideration.
03-17-2011 01:02 PM
Waltthesalt I moved my cabin top traveler to put in a dodger. Mid boom travelers are a good thing for racing as they act as a vang. They more heavily load the boom however. If you're crusing they keep the sheets of the cockpit , less to tangle up the crew
03-17-2011 12:46 PM
JaredC The double-ended sheet is a cool idea. Some racing boats use a similar rig (Farr 40 being one) with a winch on either end, port and starboard. You do have to be careful not to run out of sheet at either end...
03-17-2011 12:34 PM
YeahJohn I guess that's for another thread =) Back to the rigging.

The least expensive option would be to replace the cleat on your traveler car with a block and run the main sheet back to the mast to your blocks at the base of the mast and then out to a deck organizer then into that clutch on your cabin top. You should have tackle in place it appears at some point someone changed your rigging from the intended design. You have a double clutch and a winch on your cabin top that my guess is you are only using for halyards to pull your main and head (if you have a furler that is wasted clutch space).

Another user described a two speed setup. I would go two speed for ease of use. You can get a harken pre rigged two speed sheeting system for $500. The user mentioned that he had one line my guess the main running to the cockpit and the trim sheet remaining off the boom for on the fly adjustment. I personally would run them both from the mast blocks threw the organizer and to a double clutch. You can even add clutches or get a triple clutch or go with a triple on both sides.

Here are some two-speed systems... Harkenstore Product Category
03-17-2011 12:33 PM
JaredC
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Originally Posted by sailingfool View Post
The fact is there is no correct setting for gusty conditions...
I guess we'll have to disagree on that.
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