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03-07-2012 03:23 PM
HBBurlington
Re: CS30 Replacing the holding tank - poly or stainless???

Ah, the 36T.
We looked at one as well...a lovely beastie, but we thought the 30 was good for our starter boat.
Thank you for your advice.


To Oaksail:
We have the "Poop Tube", (as I call it) from Peter and plan to install it before we launch.
We only use the head for #1, so this is a bit of a misnomer, but you get my drift...
An upgrade would include a vacume flush system...maybe Santa will bring us one.

Kim
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03-07-2012 12:59 PM
Maine Sail
Re: CS30 Replacing the holding tank - poly or stainless???

Quote:
Originally Posted by HBBurlington View Post
Thank you to everyone who posted a response.
We are going to start with the hoses.
We are reasonably confident that they are original, (as is the tank), and likely the culprit for most of the malodorous atmosphere.
If we replace it, we'll go with the poly tank.

We have new cushions and upholstery being made for us, (Island Canvas...tell Abbey I sent you!), so it's paramount to me now that we get this addressed.

I am LOVING the boat.
This was important to my hubby, because it's not much fun if you are alone.
My first season as a sailor, and learnt much along the way.
Thanks to great neighbors on our dock, and my Sailnet colleagues, I feel much more confident about season 2.
Splash May 10th....BRING IT ON!!

Kim
Kim,

I currently have the tank out of our CS-36T (1979). Once the tank was cleaned, pressure tested and the clean out port re-welded, it was leaking around the spun welded fitting, the tank is 100% still perfect.

It exhibits ZERO odor. I simply sprayed the exterior with Lysol Bathroom Cleaner with bleach and let it dry. I then hit it a second time and finally rinsed the exterior. That was it.

There is zero odor on the tank exterior. My wife even stuck her nose to it and confirmed... I also filled it with 5 gallons of bleach and let it sit for two weeks then drained it. The tank now smells as good inside as it does out... Probably good for another 33 years.....

The hoses well they lasted about three years and all are odor permeated.......
03-07-2012 12:33 PM
HBBurlington
Re: CS30 Replacing the holding tank - poly or stainless???

Thank you to everyone who posted a response.
We are going to start with the hoses.
We are reasonably confident that they are original, (as is the tank), and likely the culprit for most of the malodorous atmosphere.
If we replace it, we'll go with the poly tank.

We have new cushions and upholstery being made for us, (Island Canvas...tell Abbey I sent you!), so it's paramount to me now that we get this addressed.

I am LOVING the boat.
This was important to my hubby, because it's not much fun if you are alone.
My first season as a sailor, and learnt much along the way.
Thanks to great neighbors on our dock, and my Sailnet colleagues, I feel much more confident about season 2.
Splash May 10th....BRING IT ON!!

Kim
03-01-2012 02:26 AM
chamonix Not sure who your talking to but if it's to me in referance to the head problem, the head was filling from the holding tank not the through hall. Keeping the through hulls closed while sailing is excellent advice which I always follow.
02-29-2012 08:51 PM
rugosa Proper seamanship dictates that your toilet inlet through hull valve should be CLOSED/OFF at all times unless the head is in use to prevent sinking your boat. March/April Good Old Boat has an excellent article - Holding Tank Essentials.
02-29-2012 05:13 PM
Oaksail Hi HB
we haven't met but I'm on G dock and I think you are on E Dock. I did a complete refit of my CS30 holding tank and hoses last winter. The CS30 holding tank is configured with the pump out hose attaching to the tank about 5 inches above the lowest part of the tank. This configuration prevents completely emptying the tank at pump out time. Peter at Holland Marine sells a retrofit fitting that fixes this. A strong stomach, rubber gloves and it can be installed quite easily.
Page 294 of his online catalog.
http://www.hollandmarine.com/hmp-fli...011/index.html
I'll walk over this summer and introduce myself.
02-24-2012 12:10 PM
chamonix Anyway, some things to watch for. When we first started sailing our boat ( which would be when we first started sailing ) It would fill with water and the head would be full of crap which we would have to clean up. I'm slow in the uptake but even I figured out that something was wrong, after all who could enjoy sailing if you have to clean out the head and bilge after every sail. The answers came from another CS30 owner in our marina.
The head. It has no vented loop between the holding tank and head. If the joker valve goes it backfills when the boat heels. He suggested putting in a new head. One that the pump locks in place when not in use adding another layer of protection from backfilling. Clean out a crap filled head a couple of times and the $150 seems very cheap. If your head does not have a pump that locks in place think about replacing it ( this is why the head to holding tank hose was replaced but the discharge hose wasn't ).
Cockpit drain hoses. Agian the hoses here where the originals and in very bad shape. Had the wife fill the cockpit with water and watched them drain. they leaked very badly and in one spot the water poured through. The cockpit though hull is above water but when in a good heal the water was pouring in, and as new sailors, and not very competent we realy has her healed ( OK I realy had her healed ). So check you cockpit hoses and see what shape there in, good chance they may have been replaced already. To check you need to get to the end of the hull through the cockpit locker. It was a horrible job replacing them, I'm a big guy, its a tight fit over lots of sharp stringers, to get to hoses siezed to the through hulls. After two days of pain and missery a passer by on the dock told me he had owned a CS30 and I just needed to remove the propane locker to have good access to the cockpit hoses without going through the cockpit. I felt like killing him.
How are you enjoying the boat?
02-24-2012 11:42 AM
chamonix I'm replacing my holding tank discharge hose this spring, Its the original, its in rough shape, and it smells. Should have replaced it last year, but I didn't (lazy, sailing, other fix it jobs, crappy job, pick your excuse). Replaced the hose from the head to the holding tank and it made a big differance to the smell in the head. I used and will be using a white hose that is less rubbery and more sort of plasticky than the black metal spiral reinforced hose( all that because I can't spell non-per...perm...whatever).
I got our CS30 two years ago and I know you just got yours last season so I thought I'd pass on some problems we discovered to you It might save you some hassles. But I'll do it on another post before this one times out.
02-06-2012 11:03 AM
HBBurlington Thanks....you're right about that, and we are looking at the hoses as the first option before ripping out the tank!

Cheers!
02-04-2012 08:46 PM
Shon YES, & use the VERY BEST hose that you can find ! This is one place where you "get what you pay for" !!
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